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Original Message                 Date: 28-Apr-02  @  10:03 AM   -   room like mixes?

panama

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are there any tips out there to make a mix
sound more roomy or sound like everything is
being played in a room?

I'm a bit curious about this because all my
mixes sound empty and I want to create as
much ambience as I can.



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Message 11/17                 Date: 02-May-02  @  08:08 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

sitar

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had to take care of something. so why are your delays speeding up the mix? Not synced properly or using the wrong sync in some instances? What do you mean?



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Message 12/17                 Date: 02-May-02  @  09:10 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

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just to say it, when i was in caerphilly i popped into the castle (big 'un) and was clapping about in the banquet hall. don't think there was any tail longer than 2.5 seconds, stone walls and all.

just info.



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Message 13/17                 Date: 02-May-02  @  11:01 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

sitar

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The grand canyon has a nice slapback delay if you stand in the right spot and wait a few minutes for it to come back at you. There's an idea...a track starts and 7 minutes later the delay from the 1st note arrives to end the piece.



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Message 14/17                 Date: 03-May-02  @  05:51 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

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lol!



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Message 15/17                 Date: 03-May-02  @  06:15 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

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sound so nice we play it twice.



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Message 16/17                 Date: 03-May-02  @  07:14 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

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Ambience effect is probably the way to go; I find reverbs to be nigh useless for adding space to most of the music I'm interested in (though it still is great for effecting sounds). Good ambience algorithms will let you place the mic and sound source in the room, and give the feeling of space without adding much in the way of audible artifacts. It is basically a room reverb with lots of early reflections and negligible tail. One thing I like to do is use the ambience effect on string pads to move them physically into the background (i.e. put them on the other side of the room from the mic). Gives it a kind of vintage feel (especially when you use real string samples), and it keeps the sound from intruding on the other sounds in the mix.

Incidentally, the best multitap delay in your arsenal is probably your reverb processor. Some relatively cheap ones will let you program a dozen or more individual delay taps. It is more limited in other ways (shorter max delay time typically, no feedback), but very usable. I personally tend to prefer multitap delays with lots of taps and no feedback to regular delays with feedback (gives me more control and I can simulate feedback), so the limitations don't bother me. One of the reasons I traded my TC D-Two for an SDE-330 is the greater programmability and configurability of the taps on the Roland box.



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Message 17/17                 Date: 03-May-02  @  11:45 PM   -   RE: room like mixes?

panama

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sitar: whenever I put too much feedback or too much volume on a delay... It sort of speeds up the mix... especially when a songs tempo is faster than 130 bpm.



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