Original Message 1/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  09:52 AM   -   overdrive

brendan miles

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I was told that the best way to mix is to have the desk fader at unity gain and then use the gain pot to set the level. I like to overdrive my desk inputs till the o/d red light comes on. I find it a good way to "dirty" up my sounds. But using the gain pots in this way means I can only have my channel faders at -20. Is it acceptable to have my faders this low? Am I compromising sound quality? There is no rules right? Thanks guys.

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Message 2/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  10:45 AM   -   RE: overdrive

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if it sounds good then fine i reckon.

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Message 3/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  12:57 PM   -   RE: overdrive

i love doing a poo

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you should use distortion plug-ins. The problem would cease to exist.

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Message 4/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  01:00 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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er, no you're talking shit! (gedit). Much better to "warm" up the sound by distorting an analogue board. Cos you get harmonics and compress the sound which is a bonus. And you save CPU.

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Message 5/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  01:21 PM   -   RE: overdrive

i love doing a poo

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oh look, its that name dropper smudge. What the do you know!

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Message 6/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  01:22 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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whatever. Just trying to help.

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Message 7/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  01:41 PM   -   RE: overdrive

fan of doing poo

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DESIST INTERLOPER!

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Message 8/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  01:43 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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Either method is acceptable - distorting at the inputs or using plugins. Use whichever the situation calls for.

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Message 9/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  02:03 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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I would disagree with that. 126 out of 127 times, you'll achieve a better sound by using the analog desk. Overdrive is supposed to be analog innit? :-)

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Message 10/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  03:02 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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first off, who told you that was the way to mix. your gain pot gives you an optimum input level (or a purposely too high level in this case). your faders give you your volume to the mix buss. you might start out with a fader at unity to set your gain, but it's perfectly fine to slide them up and down after that.

number two (hehe) there's different ways of distorting something, all fine, all sounding different. input driving, stomp boxes, plug-ins, amp modelers (like the pod, sans amp), guitar amps, etc. try them all, they're different colors to add to your palette. I like taking a small shitty speaker and running it off a bass head, cranked, and record it with a mic while the voice coil fries. but i'm a sadistic bastard.

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Message 11/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  04:02 PM   -   RE: overdrive

brendan miles

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thank you for the replies. D - if I set my faders at unity it doesn't make a difference because the o/d light only comes on when the gain pot reaches a certain point regardless of where the fader is. I am a tad confused now.

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Message 12/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  07:03 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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hey 'd' - have you tried that free MDA speaker sim?... f*cking superb for that sound!! - on kiks it rocks or loops etc

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Message 13/15                 Date: 29-Jul-03  @  11:00 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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rules distort your creativity

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Message 14/15                 Date: 30-Jul-03  @  04:05 AM   -   RE: overdrive

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hey "k"! it'd been a while and I'd forgotten that one. I set up a quick little loop with some xoxos drumsynths, bussed it through mda's combo, tweaked it and some funny stuff started happening. then put it through a bitcrusher plug bashing it down to around 4 to 6 bits and look out! yes, download combo -- another weapon in the arsenal. it's in the files here at dancetech.

rules may distort your creativity but maarten's creatively-used distortion f-ing rules.  

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Message 15/15                 Date: 30-Jul-03  @  05:50 PM   -   RE: overdrive

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that MDA speaker sim is one of my favourite plugs... For the newbies... it's similar to sending your loops (as an example) out froma hardware mixer via an aux send... into a guitar combo, then mic-ing the speaker and turning up the gain - THAt makes huge loops! - and what it also does is 'ruff-up' machaine created loops using clean samples into a sort of dirty breakbeat which just sounds more 'whole' and organic

the speaker sim plug does something similar... really spices up kick-drums & loops etc

try it!... The MDA plugs are all mirror hosted in our FILES section - do a search for 'MDA' or 'MAXIM'

the plugin pack also includes other GREAT stuff! - Maxim offered one of the first PC based free plugin packs that appeared back in the 90's & they still are going strong - A great VERY low-cpu-stress compressor, filters, and more - they also do superb simple 'lite' synth plugs... check the FILES section as I say & grab 'em!

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