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Original Message 1/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  08:15 AM   -   War TV

Filthy McNasty

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I didn't realise how close the camera's would actually be to all the action. I realise that technology has advanced since the last Gulf war but "wow", it really brings the destruction to your front door. We are also hearing, on the evening news, reporters who are actually advancing with the front line troops. War TV is scary.



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Message 2/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  09:47 AM   -   RE: War TV

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Don't be fooled dude. They're only showing what they want you to see. And believe me, they don't show what the reality of war really looks like.
They're trying to put it across like it's some kinda John Wayne thing.
Journalists have been at the front line for every war. This is nothing new (even if they had to disguise themselves to do it)

go to www.ogrish.com (there's loads of others as well) and troll through their archives for the war pictures if you want to see what they won't show on happy happy TV land.

sox



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Message 3/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  10:09 AM   -   RE: War TV

Filthy McNasty

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I realise that sox:-) Its not as if they are gonna show blown up mothers and babies....but that footage, last night, of the bombs being dropped on Bagdad was frightening.



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Message 4/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  01:14 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Yeah its frightening. What I find even scarier is channel 46 CNbc. Its the stock market/business report channel. They have a big logo on the screen that says "The Price of War" The U.S. stock market went up 900 points last week after Bush said we were definately going to war. Markets in other parts of the world went up too. If you watch you can get daily updated financial advise from brokers and analysts on how to adjust your portfolio to maximize profits. If the free market represents the collective conscience of millions of consumers and the and the market goes up I guess that means that "war is good." SCARY!!!!



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Message 5/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  01:26 PM   -   RE: War TV

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It's sick. The worst catastrophe that happens to people and the wall street crowd is licking their chops and rubbing their greedy little hands together.



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Message 6/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  01:30 PM   -   RE: War TV

Filthy McNasty

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D'you lot think its true that there is a certain % of Bush that wanted to go to war so everyone forgot about Enron/City Bank/etc?



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Message 7/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  01:42 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Absolutely not. BULLSHIT.



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Message 8/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  04:30 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Who's Kenneth Lay anyway?



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Message 9/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  05:13 PM   -   RE: War TV

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it's quite funny listening to all these half-assed journo's trying to spin out totaly factless reports... lol!



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Message 10/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  05:34 PM   -   RE: War TV

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alright then! conscience has it all figured out!



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Message 11/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  05:57 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Yeah, no one would lie to us! Right? I mean if we can't trust journalists, and the US governement, how are we supposed to trust Canadians? I wish I lived in Canadialand. Really though, I do.



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Message 12/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  06:04 PM   -   RE: War TV

influx

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I think you two should check out nova scotia 



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Message 13/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  07:56 PM   -   RE: War TV

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ah nova scotia. i want to live by the sea.
maybe i could marry a lighthouse keeper?

alas,automatons, sigh...



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Message 14/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  09:12 PM   -   RE: War TV

Def Z

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I actually vacationed in Nova Scotia this summer. Turns out I have peeps there - there acadians. Lots of fam - very cool. FUn to find out that I descend from loyalists. :-) Beautiful place, Nova Scotia. Had a WONDERFUL time and met some cool Canadians (as well as some not so cool Quebecers) in the b&b's.



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Message 15/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  09:39 PM   -   RE: War TV

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we're Quebec, deal with it



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Message 16/35                 Date: 21-Mar-03  @  10:10 PM   -   RE: War TV

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It's just soo depeche mode to be cynical these days LOL



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Message 17/35                 Date: 22-Mar-03  @  11:09 AM   -   RE: War TV

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Enron and Bush info. Number one contributor to Bush's 2000 campaign. Enron. Logo painted on the side of jet Bushed used to fly around in during his campaign. Enron. Number of key officials in Bush's Admin affiliated with Enron.41... Enron was a corrupt company (duH!) NOw according to what I learned my from logic professor many years ago one cannot directly make the inference that Since Enron is corrupt Ergo the Bush Administration is corrupt. I ask you this. "what does your gut tell you" After all were suppossed to believe in a connection between Osama bin laden and Saddam Hussein but no connection between Enron and the Bush Administration. Not to mention big oil. Somebody help me out here my logic circuits are melting. One thing I do know. On 11/07/04 Unless I am dead or in a coma I am not voting for that dim wit. God help us if the stock market keeps rallying like it has he may get re-elected. Scarrrrryyy...



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Message 18/35                 Date: 22-Mar-03  @  12:22 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Nova Scotia? NAh, move to super nova II xl scotia, WAY better...unless you're on a budget..



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Message 19/35                 Date: 22-Mar-03  @  11:03 PM   -   RE: War TV

Def Z

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Yes, and because of Bush's affiliation with Enron, we're going to war...



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Message 20/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  12:22 AM   -   RE: War TV

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It all reduces down to one guy, huh? Fascinatingly simple.



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Message 21/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  09:58 AM   -   RE: War TV

Zazza

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This war.. and the wars to follow have been planned for years...

http://www.newamericancentury.org



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Message 22/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  02:40 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Yeah this war TV stuff reminds me of a point made in U2's Europa tour, where war becomes like a computer game.



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Message 23/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  03:15 PM   -   RE: War TV

Def Z

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Zazza - relevance?



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Message 24/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  04:02 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Def Z.. that this war is nothing to do with anything except the New American Empire...



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Message 25/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  04:42 PM   -   RE: War TV

Def Z

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Riiiiiiiiiight. We American's are SOOOOOOOOO imperialistic. Sorry - I forgot about that.



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Message 26/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  05:09 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Yup, have you read the document? After all it is the ideological basis of the Bush administration.. in fact they even quote bits of it verbatim in white house policy documents..

The imperialism is economic, not territorial..

Do some research,your naivity is painful...



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Message 27/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  05:20 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Just saw some Al Jazeera footage on the news showing those US P.O.W.... they said Rumsfeld forbids to have it shown in the US. Sooo keen to show Baghdad being ironed out by bombs, but when the real illustration of war comes knocking on the publics' door he keeps it shut.sheesh



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Message 28/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  05:22 PM   -   RE: War TV

Zazza

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yeah, all of a sudden it is against the geneva convention to show pow's.. funny how CNN has been showing the captured Iraqi soldiers for the last 3 days?

http://www.peace.ca/moyersvideo.htm



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Message 29/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  06:13 PM   -   RE: War TV

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naivity, huh?

zazza...youre completely fooling yourself thinking youve got it figured out. sure the US is trouble. no doubt there, but you act like its YOU who understands whats going on, and all others are trippin

get over it!



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Message 30/35                 Date: 23-Mar-03  @  06:15 PM   -   RE: War TV

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I have it figured out?

Jesus .. read the New American Century website, those are the guys who have it figured out!

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

O yeah, and they are running the world right now



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Message 31/35                 Date: 24-Mar-03  @  04:26 PM   -   RE: War TV

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what ? this is a REAL war on TV ? I thought it was like one of those reality TV shows, like I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out Of Here. I swear I saw Jimmy Crankee and Sue Pollard concentrating mortar fire on Basra last night.


I gotto stop sniffing this floor cleaner.



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Message 32/35                 Date: 24-Mar-03  @  06:11 PM     Edit: 24-Mar-03  |  06:14 PM   -   RE: War TV

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Riiiiiiiiiight. We American's are SOOOOOOOOO imperialistic. Sorry - I forgot about that.

altho', technically, you weren't americans in 1759, WE remember. as a matter of fact, the motto of my country is

"i remember".

i remember we were the first to fall on the march of your evil empire.

The land of the FREE ?
Whoever told you that is your ENEMY

p.s. i refuse to watch War TV, i fell for it with 9/11, they're not getting me this time. car ads anyone?



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Message 33/35                 Date: 25-Mar-03  @  01:53 AM     Edit: 25-Mar-03  |  02:01 AM   -   RE: War TV

nutoniom

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keep america rolling !!!

you know DZ, i was probably one of the 50 (?) to buy your album, Escape. i assume i deserve a retaliation (bonus pack)



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Message 34/35                 Date: 25-Mar-03  @  02:17 AM   -   RE: War TV

Def Z

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Nutonium - when you bought it, it wasn't under the name nutonium. I could send you the second one, Dereliction of Duty, if you feel up to the pain. Most of the tracks are posted here...



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Message 35/35                 Date: 25-Mar-03  @  04:01 AM   -   RE: War TV

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lovely ice skating DZ ! (if it wasn't for that cunt french judge, you'd get a 9.09)

retaliate



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