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Original Message 1/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  08:15 AM   -   Democracy in the Middle East

Zazza

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US foreign policy strikes again.....

Islamic parties surge in Pakistan poll

Early results in Pakistan's general elections have shown a surprisingly strong performance by anti-American Muslim fundamentalist parties.
The Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal (MMA), or United Action Front, has won at least 20 of the 60 or so seats officially declared so far...



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Message 2/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  10:45 AM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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vintage hipocrisy

"US planes sprayed Wiltshire with Sarin
From Chris Ayres in Los Angeles and Michael Evans

CROPDUSTER aircraft flown by British and US military personnel sprayed deadly chemical weapons, including Sarin and VX, over the Wiltshire countryside in the late 1960s. News of the tests is broken in declassified documents released this week by the Pentagon.
They took place at the highly secretive Porton Down facility near Salisbury, despite there being virtually no information about the long-term health effects of even very low exposures to the lethal nerve agents.

As well as Sarin and VX, the tests involved Soman and Tabun. According to the documents, seen by The Times, the chemical weapons were used on open grassland and woodland.

The Ministry of Defence said last night that none of the tests was carried out on human beings or animals. The only people concerned were the military and scientists studying the effects of the chemical and biological tests.

More than 600 documents exist detailing the experiments in the 1960s: “The documents speak for themselves,” a ministry spokesman said.

The object of spraying Sarin, Tabun and VX gases over fields and woods was to see “how they would be affected by the climate and other atmospheric conditions”. Tests at sea were to check how chemical and biological agents might affect warships.

Hundreds of documents have been released by the Public Record Office in Kew about chemical and biological experiments at Porton Down in the 1950s and 1960s when human beings were used as guinea pigs. Those tests, however, involved small amounts of the gases and agents in laboratory conditions.

Those who “volunteered” from the military have claimed in recent years that they were told the experiments were about the common cold. Wiltshire police are investigating the case of Ronald Maddison, who died in 1953 after Sarin was put on his skin.

The Pentagon released the new files at the request of the Department of Veterans’ Affairs, which is lobbying for extra healthcare services for the 5,000 or so Americans involved in chemical and biological weapons testing.

It is not known how many Britons were involved, but claims for extra healthcare benefits by US servicemen could prompt similar claims in the UK — if any are still alive.

The test results are not known. It is also not known if the deadly agents were used directly on military personnel.

Crop-dusting was not the only method used to “weaponise” the nerve agents. The files explain how British and US military personnel used “rain-type” munitions and bombs.

The declassified documents acknowledge a far wider use of chemical and biological weapons than admitted by the British or US Governments. The disclosure could not come at a worse time for Tony Blair and President Bush, who argue that Iraq’s stockpiling of such nerve agents justifies a “regime change”. President Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons in the Iraq-Iran war in the 1980s and against his own Kurdish citizens."



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Message 3/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  04:52 PM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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...which leads us to: Who Fcking Cares?



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Message 4/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  07:39 PM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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Him

no! Him



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Message 5/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  08:17 PM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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maybe the people who die when we get more fundamentalist islamic terrorists.. and wars and stuff..

not charlie i take it?



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Message 6/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  10:33 PM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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yeah but charlie's being quite zen  

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Message 7/7                 Date: 11-Oct-02  @  10:41 PM   -   RE: Democracy in the Middle East

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i'd prefer him fro zen



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