Original Message 1/21                 Date: 05-Jun-02  @  10:44 PM   -   Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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Greets folks,

Just uploaded a couple trax so folks can get an idea of the sort of thing I enjoy doing. The sound is not terribly appealing at the low bitrates, but you can get an idea of the sort of thing I'm into methinks....

Peace

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Message 2/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  01:31 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

milan

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passage: like the extreme dynamics. lulls you into relaxing and then slams you back out. i noticed some rhythmical consistency in coming and going of the accidental sounds, i would prefer them more random. cant really make out the background sounds at this bitrate. i could imagine that ambience is supposed to be a pointer to the stage and various events of the passage, if the track is meant to be a continuous piece at all. might be totaly abstract for all i know. like the use of subbass as an effect, cinematic style. also like the giger inspiration, i have some of his books   i dont think you were looking for criticism, but anyway...

will give the other one a serious listen tommorow.

thanks for sharing!

regards, M.

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Message 3/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  01:44 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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hey milan, i love ur mixsets. Who are in them? Do u make ur own music for them? I'm sorry to use this forum for a thing to ask someone else but i can never find milan starting a forum. Props.

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Message 4/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  01:46 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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It's about fucking time ya bastard!   Listening to the first track. Lovely. Btw, I think you need more gear...DAMN! I like this track. Could've been the music for Gladiator. Do you ever do this at clubs? I think it would be a fantastic intro to a night of your dance tracks. If you haven't done this live, you should. Just chill while it's playing. This will get the crowd into an anticipation frenzy. Really. Excellent piece dude. I could here this as the intro for a pc adventure game too. I love this track actually. Sounds good lo-fi. I know hi-fi would be way better but this carries at 24k just fine.

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Message 5/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  01:54 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

sitarsong

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Listening to the 2nd now. This is good stuff too. So far I'm more into the other one. This could be great film stuff too if you were looking in that direction. Btw, I thought some of the music in Gladiator was pretty moving. Also the music from A Beautiful Mind. Anyway. Are you ever gonna gig in nyc? get outta beantown for a spell. If you're ever here let me know so we can hook up. ya know I never did get another cd of yours. Either couldn't find, or the last one you mentioned that might've had these tracks on it I forgot to go back to the link you had put up way back when. Bad, I know.

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Message 6/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  08:23 AM     Edit: 06-Jun-02  |  08:24 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

Maarten

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Listening to Dies Suprm... I can see this being a great opening for a PA, tension builder you know. Great stuff how the strings seem to evolve in the voice here and there- there's lots of emotion. Unable to comment quality-wise (work, shitty speakers etc etc... will listen tonight to the other track.

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Message 7/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  10:12 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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passage - you spend a lot of time bursting into drinking halls and biting off the heads of men then?  

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Message 8/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  10:26 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

bedwyr

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(not being sarcastic) do you sell this kind of thing? is there a whole 'scene' i know nothing about? (very likely)

filmic music with no pictures, or are there?

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Message 9/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  10:57 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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yes. there 'are'

"i can never find milan starting a forum"

well, keep searching, cuz he didnt.

MS...well...yeah.

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Message 10/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  11:10 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

bedwyr

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? 'are' for scenes or 'are' for pictures?

you've been quiet recently, influx. probably a good thing, eh? :P

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Message 11/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  12:33 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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hehe Influx, you were well missed.

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Message 12/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  05:54 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

Mindspawn

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Thanks for the feedback folks, always appreciated...

milan - "i dont think you were looking for criticism, but anyway..." probably true, but I dunna mind criticism, either. Seems I get enuff of it...=) I agree about the randomness in this kind of music too. Passage, however, is part of a concept album I'm doing with Coph Nia of CMI, and a big part of the idea behind it is subtle rhythm (or sometimes not so subtle) to simulate the idea of machines and humans. The whole idea is kinda like Lustmord meets Giger....

Sitar - I'm a slow bastard sometimes... and yes, I need MUCH more gear...=) Funny you mention Gladiator as me and Manolo did a dance remix of Lisa Gerrard's Sorrow (which we called Lament) that big cheese Oakenfold has been spinning in his sets lately. Anyway, stuff like Dies Supremus is a lot of fun for me, as it makes me work a lot harder. NYC? I'd love to, hell I'd love to play anywhere really, I just dunna have the time anymore with all the studio work. Seems I'm becoming more and more an engineer/sound dude, and less and less live performing... cycles I suppose.....

Maaten - (and Sitar), yeah, there's a couple DJs who use my dark ambient/neo-classical stuff for openers and extra drama. There's even a few DnB folks that mix the bits with beats. Quality - not at this bitrate, but the ideas come across okay.=)

xoxos - as much as possible when time allows...=)

bedwyr - yup, I do sell this kind of thing and yes there is a whole scene dedicated to it. Most folks call it dark ambient, but there's also noise, neoclassical, film music, and good ol' "experimental" that oft gets tagged on to this stuff. "Big names" in this stuff are Lustmord, Coil, Vidna Obmana, TAGC, Raison D'etre, Arcana, Sophia, Coph Nia, Nurse With Wound, Robert Rich, etc.

Influx - danke.

and thanks to all ye brave souls for taking the time to listen to this stuff. I well realize this ain't everyone's cup o tea, 'specially not here, but I thought some might be interested in hearing what I'm into.

Peace

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Message 13/21                 Date: 06-Jun-02  @  06:13 PM     Edit: 06-Jun-02  |  07:08 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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cool, i'l try and check that lot out then.  

[edit] here's me thinking about it later.

i think i find it a little 'frustrating' that is so heavily image influenced (it would seem) but there's no images to look at. guess it's good to make up pictures in your head, but ... ?

'nother thing, film music rarely stands on it's own without images, so ... hmm. dunno what i think.  

anyway, well cool for "putting it here". what do people do to this then? smoke? ;)

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Message 14/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  12:43 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

Mindspawn

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"what do people do to this then? smoke?" Heheh, well that certainly comes to mind...=) Seriously though, it's a different kind of "listening." I think the whole point of this stuff is that it "doesn't" have images save for those you conjure in your own head. It lets (or mayhap demands) the listener create their own images. Whether or not there's "purpose" behind it is often very subjective. I just do it cos it's what I like to hear. I'm not trying to make any grandiose statements, I simply enjoy it.

Pax

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Message 15/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  08:49 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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i'll handle the grandiose statements..

i said.. lets play a game!

i betcha i can make a...

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the set-up is a movie, except as i find myself having to change theatres, set up my own chair, proceed to different billings which all seem to be telling the same story, i find that i've been absorbed into the screenplay of the movie. but what a day it's been.. the hardware store quite happy to give me a free stick of ram i need. the old man playing the casio outside the shopping center who replies "you must give me these tools!" when i offer urls of freeware.

it's about an academy, a school for unruly but gifted children or something. admission is performed by a sniffer, who is also me, and looks remarkably like one of the aliens from 'final fantasy.' the first clarified rule is that there must be no laughter.. the institution employs a team of psychics to monitor the subjects and laughter is severely painful. it is grim.. there is nothing friendly or benevolent about the adacemy, as we are herded from great august hall to great august hall, soon we are starting to look for a way out. .

..which starts to present itself. during one of the many periods in which the 'students' are left to wait, it is discovered that the operating system is coded into the carpet.. rub the nap the right way and a script of segmented loops appears that can be rewritten by twisting the fibers, which seem to freely move. it would be very bad to be caught doing this!

we are waiting. one of us is missing. just after a horrid false display designed to demonstrate the progressive ethics and glories of the school.. you can see the wires. as fake as the sky, which seems to echo as much as the halls do.

the way out is your unreality. you must harness it and refine it like any other deadly martial art. it's the one weapon they are defenseless against, and it's the one weapon they will attempt to convince you to disregard. i posted the song but i think it was commonly disregarded since i was just singing it quick.

"..and each warm beating heart

shall from this thrall depart

before they're through

and that is true, and that is true.."



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now let's say the name again with an 'n' this time...



awaken to mindspawn's monk droning a nasal "nnyyyuuuuuuuuuuuuh" down from the sky, bells like rusty hinges shriek to ordinate the new day.

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Message 16/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  09:37 AM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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*speechless*

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Message 17/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  04:50 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

xoxos

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maarten maarten mo maarten banana fana fo faarten me mi and the rest

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Message 18/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  06:23 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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cool--I've been curious about your stuff. lots of depth, even on shitty computer speakers. It's a weird niche, though, so soundtrackish. I can see how this stuff would work as dramatic openers, esp. for jungle stuff. thanks for giving us a listen.

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Message 19/21                 Date: 07-Jun-02  @  07:54 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

Mindspawn

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xoxos - you are most remarkable... but I keep my remarks to mesef...=)

knowa - thanks for taking the time to listen.

Peace

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Message 20/21                 Date: 09-Jun-02  @  10:29 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

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I enjoyed. The one thing I didn't quite like was the way that surf-crashing sound became progressively louder over 4 repetitions or so...it seemed a little predictable. But the samples were cool & diverse and I like the sounds & composition.

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Message 21/21                 Date: 12-Jun-02  @  09:29 PM   -   RE: Uploaded a couple Mindspawn trax

Mindspawn

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marianimal - many thanks for taking the time to listen and comment, both are well appreciated.

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