0  |  skin: 1 2 3  | Login | Join  | 

Audioindy.com

Mail discussion to a friend Search forums House rules Live chat Login to access your admin About 7161 forums Forum home New Topic

Forums   -   Mixing & FX

Subject: AW4416 or 02R


Viewing all 19 messages  -  View by pages of 10:  1 2


Original Message 1/19                 Date: 21-May-01  @  02:52 PM   -   AW4416 or 02R

808 life

Posts: 109

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



so yhea this has likely poped up before, so I'll just make it quick, why is the 02r so much more expensif than the AW4416? (wich I thought was basicly a 02r w a HD recorder inside.. or a hdr w a 02r inside ... right now I'm leaning towards the aw4416 cos it will do everything right down to the cd burning... still a bit out of my price-range, but I'm always preparing for the future.. and this thing looks like a steel of the year on the s/h market ....



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 2/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  02:31 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

808life

Posts: 109

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



so no-one knows why a 02r w a HD-R would b less expesif than a 02r ?? .. there must b a catch ..



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 3/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  05:05 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

k

Posts: 12353

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



what makes you think they are the same?

___________________________________

I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 4/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  09:53 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

influx

Posts: 7627

Link?:  Link

File?:  No file



theyre not

please read a little further. www.yamaha.com



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 5/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  05:03 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

8life8

Posts: 109

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



actually I looked it up and acording to promotional adds by yammy they state it has a 02r built inside, and from the mixing specs yhea it does have the 02r mixing capabilities, and a sales person told me it had 44 ins, so I guess I'm being all silly when I think the AW is the same w a added 16trk HD-r, but last night I just relized that it's not a actual 44 input mixing desk only 24 (correct!? .. and that is the catch!!! the dif, the info that I was looking for, ..craking my own post.. why do I even bother posting.. but thanks anyway...



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 6/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  06:02 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

99devils

Posts: 2707

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



According to Yammy it has 8 analog ins and a S/PDIF pair as stock. You'll have to add cards to bring it up to full capability..

From Yamaha.com:

If you'll be recording with the AW4416 alone, from mostly analog sources, you probably won't even need any additional interface cards. The AW4416 comes equipped with 8 analog microphone/line inputs. All inputs are balanced with TRS phone plugs, while channels 1 and 2 additionally feature XLR type connectors with switchable phantom power, +48v and insert I/O points for patching in external analog signal processing devices. Channel 8 also features a Hi-Z unbalanced input intended primarily for direct-recording guitar or bass. Digital input capability is provided via a coaxial stereo input. If that's not enough for your recording needs, then you can add up to 16 analog and/or digital inputs via two I/O card slots on the rear panel.
You can mix and match I/O cards as required, so you could, for example, add four high quality 24-bit analog inputs via a MY4-AD card in one slot, and 8 channels of ADAT optical digital input via a MY8-AT in the remaining slot. The Sampling Pads which can be used for realtime playback and recording of samples effectively provide another 8 inputs, the dual stereo effect returns are another 4, and the hard-disk recorder section has another 16 inputs. That adds up to 44 inputs with full simultaneous mix capability.

----

So you can really only have a maximum of 24 inputs from external kit.. The input cards are the same as the 01V and will run you $250-300 US for the ADAT I/O or the 4-channel analog card. There's an 8-channel analog card too, but I don't know how much it'd cost you.

-Craig



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 7/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  12:10 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

influx

Posts: 7627

Link?:  Link

File?:  No file



influx youre suck a dick sometimes



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 8/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  02:04 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

damballah

Posts: 1675

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



oh really?



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 9/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  04:27 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

k

Posts: 12353

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



yeah but an o2r cant mix 44 channels... mixer makers always specify "it has 6 zillion inputs" etc, but the reality of how many you can actualy mix with is usualy a different story

___________________________________

I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 10/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  04:08 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

fink

Posts: 53

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



so we wouldn't find an aw4416 in a professional environment then, would we??

i know of people completing large projects with just an 02r but somehow it seems yamaha are being a little deceptive.

do you think you could properly complete and master (to disc as they put) whole songs ready for release?



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 11/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  07:26 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

99devils

Posts: 2707

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



Dude, Springsteen has released #1s that were recorded on a 4-track, and Ricky Martin's producers used a million dollar Pro Tools rig. You can do releasable stuff on a 1604, or less.

-Craig



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 12/19                 Date: 07-Jun-01  @  05:08 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

fink

Posts: 53

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



just a question (as usual).

the literature for the aw4416 states 'if you usuing mostly analogue equipment you won't need more than the 8 analogue ins'!!

why is this then??

i have so many modules with so many outputs are they implying i re-route cables as and when i need them.

my mixer at the moment has everything i can patched in but 8 analogue ins simply won't cut it?

i may be reading this wrong but can someone explain the process of the aw4416 and recording.
i'm new to recording workstations and need to see if this is what i want.

am i expected to record several signals at different times rather then all in one go??

i want to get into vocals so a workstation could be good but the midi side is a bit misunderstood by me.

can someone explain

cheers



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 13/19                 Date: 07-Jun-01  @  06:30 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

gb

Posts: 437

Link?:  Link

File?:  No file



That's a rather strange statement... Must be a typo.



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 14/19                 Date: 11-Jun-01  @  07:21 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

99devils

Posts: 2707

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



Are you actually going to record more than 8 analog ins at once? This thing IS a recorder, remember?

-Craig



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 15/19                 Date: 11-Jun-01  @  09:41 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

gb

Posts: 437

Link?:  Link

File?:  No file



I agree with craig (as always) but it would make more sense for an 8 track recorder to have at least 16 inputs that you could select for recording 8 at a time. Like the 01v with adat...



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 16/19                 Date: 12-Jun-01  @  01:01 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

fink

Posts: 53

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



exactly!! more inputs as standard would be so beneficial. 16 should be a standard on sch a machine.

if you notice all the other digital workstatuions only have 8 inputs with no expansin options. crap!!

anyway, it just seemed odd, altough it's a recorder that you can't do a 16 channel record at the same time, say designating which channels to record without repatching cables.

i usually have 6 channels just for drum hits. then breaks, stereo pads, panning sounds, vocals, etc. possibly all at once!!



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 17/19                 Date: 12-Jun-01  @  01:01 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

fink

Posts: 53

Link?:  No link

File?:  No file



exactly!! more inputs as standard would be so beneficial. 16 should be a standard on sch a machine.

if you notice all the other digital workstatuions only have 8 inputs with no expansin options. crap!!

anyway, it just seemed odd, altough it's a recorder that you can't do a 16 channel record at the same time, say designating which channels to record without repatching cables.

i usually have 6 channels just for drum hits. then breaks, stereo pads, panning sounds, vocals, etc. possibly all at once!!



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 18/19                 Date: 02-Jul-01  @  07:30 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

rhyze

Posts: 1444

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



You said it yourself, "it is a recorder". Get a patch bay, sync it to your seqeuncer, and do several passes. Why would you need to record 16 channels live when doing electronic music?



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Message 19/19                 Date: 02-Jul-01  @  05:33 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

k

Posts: 12353

Link?: Link

File?:  No file



they probably mean if using a mixer & outboard with 8 subgroups, routing the 8 subs permenently to the AW, thats how my Hoontech 8x8 rack is setup.

___________________________________

I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



[ back to forum ]               [quote]

Viewing all 19 messages  -  View by pages of 10:  1 2

There are 19 total messages for this topic





Reply to Thread

You need to register/login to use the forum.

Click here  to Signup or Login !

[you'll be brought right back to this point after signing up]



Back to Forum