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Subject: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!


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Original Message 1/12                 Date: 12-Oct-00  @  01:31 PM   -   HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

rumladmaff

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anyone here have problems focussing on certain styles of music?? i am going out of my mind as i honestly find it impossible to concentrate on one style of music anymore! i understand the need to be open-minded in relation to both listening and writing music, but i am so inspired and impressed by so many types of music, that i don't seem to be able to write that much anymore....i'll listen to a progressive house/trance set and think 'that's it, that's the level you want to be at'.....2 days later i'll hear some evil down-beat breaks track, think the same, a day later listen to radiohead or puressence and want to sack the whole dance thing....get on the guitar, mess around with samples, etc. as much as i like having the open-minded approach, at the moment i just seem to be noodling around with a million and one unfished bits of everything, and getting nowhere fast. i remember when i was a FULL ON JUNGLE HEADCASE for years, i got tracks written.....i was to a point, quite single-minded (as far as dance music went, anyway) but this at least gave me a starting point and something to aim for. i know you will probably all cry 'if it feels right, just do it!' but the thing is, people need to identify with a certain style of an artist, and then usually this is followed later by their (the artists) other influences finally showing up - the prodigy are a classic example; did the rave scene for years, got established, started messing around with stuff in other directions, ended up writing jilted generation!! and then punk, and now apparently hip-hop and d'n'b influences are back for the new album!! my point is that at one point, liam howlett was comitted to one specific style enough to succeed at it, and was then able to move on.....fair enough if you want to write for tv, or are just so damn brilliant that even though your demo ranges from speed-metal to gospel to chill-out jazz to minimal industrial techno, you still get signed to emi!!! but a lot of labels probably have one, two or in rare cases three styles of music they want to hear......what do you do, sod it and write anything and everything, or set yourself some realistic goals to achieve, ie, do so many tracks in one pigeon-hole and get them sent off??? whatever i am curreently writing, the music on the radio/someones car stereo/in the club i'm at will always be what i think i should be doing instead!!!! help me, please. maff!! p.s. what are your opinions on doing tracks in a style you dislike, just because it's so formulaic and easy, to get some money?? i at one time thought 'NEVER!' but after finding out that an old school-colleague is now earning £5000 per remix (of which there are loads), it does make you think that perhaps it's time to ditch your morals, along with the shitty factory job, and make some money. maff



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Message 2/12                 Date: 12-Oct-00  @  01:43 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

casparproject

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Sounds to me like you just need to take a break for
a bit. It happens Sounds like you're too concerned
with getting signed and all that crap, and chances
are you'll have a few styles going at the time
someone notices you, and that will be the time to
decide. Just write what you feel like writing until
that time. Hopefully you'll be able to write what you
feel like writing if/when you start makin bread off of
it.

Peaceout,

Peter



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Message 3/12                 Date: 12-Oct-00  @  11:00 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

rumladmaff

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sound advice, Pete.....maybe i should stop worrying about getting signed, etc, but i find it hard not to when you so often hear utter shite being played, on top of the fact that i'm at my wits end in this monkey's job i do for a living. i just want to get involved in music in a bigger way than sitting here with a computer and some synths, etc.....i'll be studio tea-boy, anything!! haha!! i am hoping to go back to college next year and do a music technology/sound engineering course, but first i have to get the cash together. i would like to think that getting signed would boost my confidence enough to compell me further, both musically and in terms of getting educated. saying that, i've just been involved in a ridiculous fiasco regarding one measly track i sent off....i got the 'paperwork' but didn't end up signing it, due to a lot of crap which you don't want to hear! i was gutted, though. anyway, i'm digressing somewhat, so i'll shoot....nice one for the comment Pete and yeah........PEACE OUT!



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Message 4/12                 Date: 16-Oct-00  @  03:47 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

ggehiere

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If you find yourself working from sample CDs alot, that
may be part of your problem. I find it easier to focus
on the music that best suits me when I have to build
everything from scratch.

Regar



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Message 5/12                 Date: 24-Oct-00  @  02:11 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

djmythikal

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I know exactly how you feel, believe it or not, I am going through the exact same thing. I am constantly torn between what I want to express and how I want to express it, and that's when I realized that that's exactly the problem. Expression is expression, not hearing someone else's expression and wanting to get on their level. My advice to you is to do what I did: clear your mind of everything-the music you've heard recently, work, everything, and just be there in your little bubble with your gear. Forget all influence, what you want your music to sound like, everything! Then just start experimenting, making beats and noises until some things start to fall into place. If its dance, cool, if its not,that's cool too. And observe your own mind while you are doing all of this, and if you catch yourself thinking: well it should sound like this because there is this one track on this one cd that sounds so good, stop it! Soon you will start to develop some original ideas. And that's the point here, to make new music. This music is all about progression, innovation, and originality.To me anyway. Don't worry about getting signed so much, if you make something that's really good that's all that counts, and if there is a label that is true to art, they will pick you up on it. So just forget about objectives and just express what you feel. Hope that helps. Peace



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Message 6/12                 Date: 29-Oct-00  @  01:29 AM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Satori00

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I also had that problem, but to me it sounds like your are too involved with the outcome rather than makeing the music.Do like casparproject said, take a brake and come back and just start makeing music. Also please, for the love of god, whatever you do don't think for one second you have to prove yourself in an already established genre of music. Don't limit yourself like that, just do what you dig. If your into any newschool breakbeat listen to Adam Freeland's new album. He takes any sample he wants from any genre of music and makes it work.



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Message 7/12                 Date: 31-Oct-00  @  07:22 AM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

BJT

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"Tectonics" is wickard inspiration, can't wait
to see wot else comes outa Marine Parade.

BJT.



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Message 8/12                 Date: 31-Oct-00  @  06:01 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Glasses.........(lame).



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Message 9/12                 Date: 02-Nov-00  @  12:30 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

TiC

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Try makeing all the melody lines and beats for the track. Then make some half ass mixes of it in different directions and tempos then check what sounds best. A hint is to always sample your drum kits after a certain system so that u can just cykle throug them and see what works with your melody and theme



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Message 10/12                 Date: 04-Nov-00  @  02:51 AM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

chickenhead

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Good stuff usually happens when you're supposed to be doing other things. Don't show up at work some day and jam instead. Don't do your homework! Neglect to pick up your friends! FUCK THE CREDIT CARD BILLS!
With all honesty, just sit down with some important paperwork and then get up and wander around for awhile until you reach the keyboards.



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Message 11/12                 Date: 09-Nov-00  @  11:05 AM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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dead fish swim with the current



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Message 12/12                 Date: 10-Nov-00  @  06:06 PM   -   RE: HELP NEEDED FOCUSSING ON TRACKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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oh dude, talking about torn between music styles, lol. I have almost e x a c t l y the same problem, I don't expect a contract right now, though, since I'm just getting started, well third year now, but you know ... no money - no real gear =P.
i make breakbeat, techno, trance, dub (still working on 2 tracks) and I like all those genres (well at least it's the kind of music I can make). I can't decide which one i'd later specialise on .... hehe
oh and when I listen to people younger than me, making better music, my inspiration fades away  
but check for yourself, 'd be nice to hear from some professionals =)
thanks



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