hey, i know exactly what you're talking about... i think that to be really into music you HAVE to be controlled/whatever by your subconcious/whatever, cause that's the part music touches... i mean, how could music appeal to the logical, rational part of your brain? it's the most irrational, intuitive thing there is... but of course maybe other people operate in different ways... it's true though, for me anyway, i can never seem to write good lines sober... well, maybe that's not entirely true -- it all seems to make sense to me: if i've got a few parts, i can usually write decent stuff on top of that sober... i figure it's cause i'm operating within an established frame, which my logical brain can handle... but for coming up with the root of the song, like the first few ideas, i find that when i'm straight there's a much higher chance it'll really, really suck...(or course, when i'm stoned EVERYTHING sounds just a little bit better)
so i guess what i wanted to say is that there are certain areas where i think a rational concious process is a bit more helpful (i.e mixing, which i )_cannot_ do stoned), and of course for inspiration/channeling the secrets inside you...
and i don't know about you, but i personally have never doubted for a moment that i was in the complete control of music... fuck, beyond a case of extreme chronic gear-lust, it's stuff like having things going through my head continuously all day that's never let me doubt my (partial) insanity... and i guess _i_ think that's the key, cause you can be some wacko yoko-ono style, screaming in a bag-type, which is i suppose equally "detatched" from reality, but (for me) the thing that makes great music great is that it's not a pile of random crazyness, it's structure, organized crazyness... so if you're partially insane you're all set, cause you can come up with crazy shit, and then have the sense to figure out how it's all gonna come together... of course i'm sure a lot of people operate completely in one realm or the other...
anyway, i really have no clue at all what the force behind this is, but then again since my wonderful subconcious is in control, i don't have to care! i just let it take control, remembering to do stuff like eat and clothe myself periodically....
okay, final thought: i don't think it's really the "destruction of concious thought" so much as it's the bypassing of it... well, maybe destruction to me means something a bit more permanent, but i htink it's more of a transcending thing... going above and beyond, collecting cool shit, then thinking about it, seeing how it works, and learning from all that...
right, the last thought for sure this time: isn't that what any art's about? granted, i guess dance music's a bit more abstract than, say, poetry (well, most poetry anyway), but... okay, i'm getting sidetracked, what i mean is (RRGHHH sorry for the absent scatter-braindeness... maybe a bit too much inspiration over the past few days..) we're ALL conditioned to a greater or lesser extent to "channel" or whatever, get in touch with, the subconcious (incidentally, i never took psych101, i'm just assuming by subconcious you mean the irrational, secret sort of mysterious part... you know, the one with the big-ass oedipal(?) complex...), that's all music _is_, or most of it anyway, i think... it just seems that some of us are more in touch with that part than others (fucking people that listen to crap radio ALL FUCKING DAY, but they're not even listening, they just like background noise! AAARRRGGH@!@!!!!!!!!!) sorry, i really think my subconcious is sort of overzealous...
tangent: in many other threads, this whole moneyvs."keepin it real"/etc. thing keeps cropping up, where a few people will cry out against rote music-making, saying it's a desecration....maybe it's all just a difference of brain-processes... i.e some of us approach music on a toally rational level, and some of us don't... and our brains don't like to feel desecrated.