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Subject: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???


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Original Message 1/10                 Date: 13-Apr-00  @  08:13 PM   -   FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

criticalzero

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Hi, I've been lookin' to grab mahself a nicely priced ($200 - $300) multifx box, mainly for use with vox...i was soooo0o close to getting a lexicon mpx 100, but i reeeallly want the programmability...my current choices consist of Alesis Midiverb IV , Zoom RFX2000 , and Digitech S200 ...i just want to see what y'all think ov them, which is better in your opinion, etc...oh, and if ya'll got any other suggestions, they're more than welcome  



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Message 2/10                 Date: 13-Apr-00  @  08:15 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

criticalzero

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Oh, and also, i want to get some sort of box (possibly a pedal) for some audio distortion before/after i send the signal to the fx box, and was wondering if any old distortion pedal would suffice ...i haven't tried it, but i've been told that i'd get insane feedback if did so...like, for example an electro harmonix big muff, or a line 6 pod (which has distortion and seperate fx in it, which i'd love, if this feedback thing isn't true i mite end up getting it..)...i dunno if this is the way to go, or if there's a specific studio fx box tailored with built in distortion...


so , i guess what im lookin' for is an effects unit to use with vocals, mainly modulation and delay, plus somethign to add distortion...any recommendations...



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Message 3/10                 Date: 20-Apr-00  @  08:06 AM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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i've seen boss se-70's in the $300-350 range recently, that
is a good vocals box...it's got a vocoder, and decent analog
distortions... of course you'll have to go used... and it's
got lots of strange effects....

the new boss (vf1) should be good too, at around
$400 street probably (list $499) includes mic
modeling (?) a vocoder, and the COSM guitar
distortion stuff from the VG8, etc.

don't know much about anything else...

your guitar pedal should work fine for distortion.
just plug it in a try it. you'll need a mic preamp of course,
if you've got inserts on your mixer, plug your mic
into the mic input, and put the dirt box in the effects
loop....



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Message 4/10                 Date: 16-May-00  @  09:16 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

Breakerbox

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Check out the zoom 1204
sure its not the greatest but it almost have everything you need, it is geared towards vocalists,it has front panel mike input, plus it has a vocoder too... musicians friend is selling it for around 130$.



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Message 5/10                 Date: 17-May-00  @  01:21 AM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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which is better, se-70 or vf1?



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Message 6/10                 Date: 26-May-00  @  03:57 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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Behringer now are offering 2 seperate FX units for under £200

the VIRTULIZER and the MODULIZER

the first is a good reverb delay unit
the second is more of your flange phasing unit ,this one has some really different and whacky

both are 24bit
both can be midi'd up

you wont go wrong at that sort of money



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Message 7/10                 Date: 26-May-00  @  04:10 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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between se70 & vf1, don't know.....i've heard the vocoder
on the se70 is better (there are 2 of them instead of
1...an 11 band and 21 band, i don't know what's on the vf1).
the vf1 has a few things the se-70 doesn't, mic modeling,
COSM amp modeling, stuff like that. the se-70's distortions
are non-modeled analog (but they're not guitar amps
either, so which is better depends on what you are doing with it).

i've also heard that for the basic effects, the difference between
the se-70 and the vf-1 is similar to the difference between
the se-50 and the se-70...so the vf1 is probbaly a better choice
for everything except the vocoder....and i'm sure it's still pretty
good....



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Message 8/10                 Date: 31-May-00  @  11:07 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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thanks for the input



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Message 9/10                 Date: 11-Jun-00  @  05:31 PM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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VF1 rocks. If I had to use it as my only FX I would not cry into my cereal.

none of these things are designed for vocals (the ones mentioned)

try a digitech vocalist, or..whats that other one...boss VoFX? cant remember.

I think that you might be better off using something thats designed for the voice..but i dont know shit really so whats it matter?

oh..plus this thread is old as shit. nevermind



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Message 10/10                 Date: 16-Jun-00  @  07:36 AM   -   RE: FX unit for VOCALS!!!???

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vocalist is basically a harmony box isn't it? and i don't
like the sound of anything digitech i've ever gotten near
(except for the rds-1900 i used to have, that was OK).

there is a vocal effect chain on the SE70, and
probably the VF1. i don't know what "designed for
voice" would mean, the "voice FX" or voice transformer
stuff usually means either "i have a vocoder! make
robot voices with me!" or that it has a mic preamp
onboard and you can plug your mic right into it...

at least, from what i've seen...even vocoders aren't
really "vocal" effects, although that's how they are usually
used...vocode a drum loop against a pad for instance....
(pad carrier, drum loop modulator)...lots of fun...



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