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Original Message 1/23                 Date: 09-Jul-00  @  04:40 PM   -   Digital mixers with FX and compression

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I'm in the market for a digi mixer. I need 8 channels but what if i buy more equpitment? (massive dilema)

The mixer needs to have built compressors on each channel and preffrebly FX as well, am i being unreasonable to ask for this? how much am i expecting to pay for a decent one? whats the meaning of life?


MAN I'M CONFUSED, somebody help



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Message 2/23                 Date: 12-Jul-00  @  10:17 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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comp's on each channel?.. thats asking a bit.. ASSIGNABLE comps you can put on any channel from a total of x amount available... sure... the short answer is no... there are no cheap ones that'll do alot of channels... the yammy 01 does 16 tho, and has 8 i/o adat lightpipe to send over subs to the pc for taping prior to burning etc... tascam have just released a cheap one at about 500-600 street price.. but it is limited for channels... dunno if they clock to link two or more tho...doubt it.. but you could run a combi of analog mixer for your synths, and dig mixer for your pc tracks....cos the midi mixer in the sequencers will do all the stuff like mute etc for the midi tracks... you can then route the analog mixer into the dig mixer on a couple of aux returns or channels that way you can route stuff to dig outs to record



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Message 3/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  09:24 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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Yup, 01V has compressors on almost every channel (not the 8 expansion channels, although you can reassign a bank of 8 compressors and 4-band eqs to the expansions from channels 1-8), also 2 FX processors. Sounds great.

I paid $1500 US for mine at guitar center.

-Craig



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Message 4/23                 Date: 12-Aug-00  @  08:43 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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yup, save your clams and get an o1v... i never worry about getting stuff done in the mix now, i just make music and the board is so well laid out you just don't think about what you are doing, it just happens.

also, the sound quality is sooooooo nice man. i am a big fan of the yamaha fx stuff.

i am selling a juno and i am used to hearing it through my o1v and its fx... recently took it to a local studio to sell it and while they were listening they ran it through an alesis midiverb something or another. (small studio!) and man it sounded like crap...

don't even get me started on total recall of your settings. try working on 4 songs at once on your normal mixer!

the problem with the o1vs is that even using 24 inputs, i still need more sometimes but that is my only complaint.

later

jamey



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Message 5/23                 Date: 24-Aug-00  @  09:47 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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"the problem with the o1vs is that even using 24 inputs, i still need more sometimes but that is my only complaint"

My solution to that is to sub-mix using a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro. The 1202 comes in handy for 'small jobs' too, like submixing a few keyboards in a DJing scenario.



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Message 6/23                 Date: 24-Aug-00  @  09:47 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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"the problem with the o1vs is that even using 24 inputs, i still need more sometimes but that is my only complaint"

My solution to that is to sub-mix using a Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro. The 1202 comes in handy for 'small jobs' too, like submixing a few keyboards in a DJing scenario.



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Message 7/23                 Date: 25-Aug-00  @  01:20 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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naw, i am too lazy to write down knob settings etc on the sub mixer :-)



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Message 8/23                 Date: 25-Aug-00  @  03:43 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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Use the sub mixer for 'set and forget' stuff like FX returns. All I normally change is the fader lever, EQ if I'm feeling adventurous.



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Message 9/23                 Date: 30-Aug-00  @  05:13 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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I've started to use external FX with my 01v. I've now got a Roland SRV3030 for reverbs.

Parameters on the 01v's reverbs are a tad limited IMO (when compared to some of the available seperates)...



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Message 10/23                 Date: 30-Aug-00  @  02:29 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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That SRV3030 is one hell of a bargain here in the UK - £299 for a very, very good reverb. And it's got RSS albeit in a non-programmable way. Good stuff.



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Message 11/23                 Date: 31-Aug-00  @  05:20 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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Yeah very nice results with the 3030 - shame though that Roland aren't selling the 'digital I/O' as an add-on. It's theoretically possible (I talked to Roland), since the 'D' version is identical to the base unit, with an add-on card.



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Message 12/23                 Date: 26-Sep-00  @  11:30 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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so chris..using external FX...do you just use the 4 assignable outs as sends and come back into channels? Hows that workin for ya?

I am 99.9% ready to go to the 01v. many reasons. compressors on all channels. 2 FX processors (I can get rid of a couple FX boxes)...but the main thing is the mix recall. right now Im working on ONE song, but had some ideas for another..

I know..lazy..but FUCK writing all that shit down and coming back to it...Id rather just call up the mix in memory and voila!!!

just gotta find one now. need the 8 extra ins..figger theyd be good for aux returns.



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Message 13/23                 Date: 27-Sep-00  @  01:04 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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yeah, good decision...

the o1v definately makes you spoiled and lazy but i love mine...

you will need some kind of expander for it, 16 just aint enough

jamey



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Message 14/23                 Date: 29-Sep-00  @  10:58 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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influx;

I do use the four omni outputs as aux sends, returning the FX units via a little Behringer mixer (MX802A) into one of the stereo inputs. The noise gate on the stereo input is great, when you have 4 FX units in quiescent mode the hiss can get up a bit, so the gate keeps it in check.

If you don't want to buy a separate submixer, the 8 extra inputs for the 01v(on MY8AD) would be good for aux returns, as they are lacking in features compared to channels 1-16, like:

1) Only 2 band EQ (still parametric though)

2) Only access to aux sends 1 and 2, but you're not likely to want to use too many aux sends on aux return channels.

3) No access to fader/mute groups.

4) No stereo link facility for adjacent channels. You'd think this would be useful for stereo returns, but just set the pans to hard left and right and move two faders as one. The stereo link is most useful on samplers with multiple outputs configurable as stereo pairs or single mono.

4) And no dynamics either. Gates would be nice though.


If you did go for the 01v (and I strongly recommend it), think about getting the 8 analogue input card and/or (depending on how much gear you've got) a cheap submixer for the set-and-forget inputs like FX returns. The flexibility it gives you is amazing.



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Message 15/23                 Date: 30-Sep-00  @  08:03 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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I think Id be set with the 8 extra ins. really bummed on the no inserts thing..would have liked to use a tube processor on the mains..but...can be worked around.

thanks much for the info. now to find one at NON ridiculous prices.



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Message 16/23                 Date: 17-Oct-00  @  06:18 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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I'M VERY INTRESTING, NEW DIGITAL STUDIO
YMAHA AW- 4416, IT'S GOOD FOR DANCE MIX



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Message 17/23                 Date: 18-Oct-00  @  08:07 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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yeah. good for dance mix!



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Message 18/23                 Date: 19-Oct-00  @  02:59 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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If it means anything, our studio is looking into buying another O1v. The quality/money ratio is suberb.

$1349 USD - www.8thstreet.com Email me if you want a deal with the manager there.

GT



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Message 19/23                 Date: 21-Oct-00  @  08:06 AM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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good price for new! got it for a grand tho..in an SKB popup case;)



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Message 20/23                 Date: 23-Oct-00  @  02:37 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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Influx, can you grab the model number off that SKB for me. When I start giging again I'm going to need a rack case.

-Craig



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Message 21/23                 Date: 23-Oct-00  @  09:17 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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you got it man. It should be here Friday.

Im gonna sell the case, too. I dont really need it right now. Need the analog card more and figure I should be able to get that amount by selling the case. Ill tell you the model, you look it up and find a price and we can go from there



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Message 22/23                 Date: 24-Oct-00  @  02:29 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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I can't afford to buy it right now (and I'm not gigging), so go ahead and work your magic. I just want to know which case fits it for when I'm ready.

-Craig



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Message 23/23                 Date: 24-Oct-00  @  06:13 PM   -   RE: Digital mixers with FX and compressoin

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you got it



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