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Original Message 1/15                 Date: 26-Oct-99  @  11:43 PM   -   digital or analog?

mc1674

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I am just starting out mixing dance music would i be better useing a digital
or anaolg mixer and what kind would be good?



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Message 2/15                 Date: 27-Oct-99  @  06:22 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

gee

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Hi-end digital consoles from yamaha are pretty good,d.m.c 1000, 02R, however most dance is mixed on analog consoles because they retain the warmth plus are much cheaper however noise levels are higher, most people like to use the mackie, or soundcraft. If you have the money, go for a protools system with 3 888`s converters. IF you want to compliment it further with a console, get a digital console with multiple digital buss outs, and digital inputs(d.m.c 1000, if you can find one) and you got yourself a trully pro rig good to mix anything.



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Message 3/15                 Date: 27-Oct-99  @  11:01 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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I've owned a Yammie 01V for a bit having stepped up from an analog (Mackie) and I've had nothing but great results with it. I think maybe we give the regular listening audience way too much credit. Digital sounds good and automation, onboard FX, EQ and dynamics is very convenient and cost effective.

You CAN rock the house with a good digital mixer.....



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Message 4/15                 Date: 27-Oct-99  @  11:30 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

Gee

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01V IS OKAY, EXCEPT IT HAS NOT GOT ANY HEAD-ROOM, PLUS IS A BITCH IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE OUT-BOARD DYNAMICS IN THE COMVENTIONAL ENGINEERING APPROACH. I USED ONE AND WAS NOT HAPPY WITH IT.(SOUND IS GOOD THOUGH)



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Message 5/15                 Date: 27-Oct-99  @  08:34 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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true, you cant for example drive a digital mixer input to fuck to get booming kik-drums or bass



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Message 6/15                 Date: 27-Oct-99  @  09:48 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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thanks for the advise all.looks like i am leaning more towards analog.
(mackie) I guess? Maybe the 1402 vlz
pro?Any one know a good one to get?



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Message 7/15                 Date: 28-Oct-99  @  01:09 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

roller8

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Sorry, it's true. There is no such thing as headroom with digital. The object is to push it as close to max without clipping it. That's true with anything digital, however.



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Message 8/15                 Date: 29-Oct-99  @  05:34 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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Theres nothing pretty about digital distortion



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Message 9/15                 Date: 01-Nov-99  @  10:27 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

ivan

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Try to find a used CR1604 or CR1604 VLZ, you won't need those esoteric mic preamps for dance music anyway.



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Message 10/15                 Date: 03-Nov-99  @  07:43 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

Will

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I'd just go for a nice clean analog mixer. Some digital studio's spend alot of time and money using FX to get that warmth that the loose through mixing digital. And yeah...digital distortion is harsh, but analog distortion can be creative. Like to fatten a kick or overdrive a 303 line like in 'higher state of consiousness'....



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Message 11/15                 Date: 03-Nov-99  @  06:37 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

mc1674

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the sales men in all the big stores
are all trying to sell me digital
the prices are all way over 1,000
it seems like you cant get good advice
from them there just selling what there making the most on. This site is great!!



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Message 12/15                 Date: 04-Nov-99  @  11:53 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

roller8

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Thought it wasn't?  



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Message 13/15                 Date: 15-Nov-99  @  12:46 AM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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The new Mackie XDR preamps do make a difference in how the whole board sounds. Both the XLR mic inputs AND the 1/4" bal/unbal inputs go through the same preamps. Signal entering the 1/4" inputs is attenuated then run through the preamps, then into the channel strips. I just replaced my 1604's with the VLZ-PRO and the new version does sound better to me.

The way to get signal into the Mackies without going through the preamps is to go into the inserts, by inserting the jack one click. I don't know why anyone would want to do that though, because the new Mackies are very clean sounding using the XDR preamps.



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Message 14/15                 Date: 16-Nov-99  @  06:24 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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Question for digital mixer users,

I am about to buy a new mixer, but I am not sure wheter to buy a analog or a digital one. The digital mixers in my budget all have almost no rotary knobs for eq, so how do you guys do that? With shift buttons? Does that work convenient? I use eq as a creative part of my music...I would be glad to hear about your experiences..Thanks!



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Message 15/15                 Date: 21-Nov-99  @  10:24 PM   -   RE: digital or analog?

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most important:
1. channel mutes DON'T make audible clicks -

2. good mid eq if poss

3. enuff out's to drive your amp, and any required routing to the pc to for example record a stereo synth part as a loop with some added outboard fx (stereo) added & recorded with the synth as part of the whole 'patch/sound'

see MIXERS & MIXING page for what sorta pc recording you can acheive and how with mixers of 2 & 3 aux sends and with and without subgroups etc - check it - in the MIXER section



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