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Original Message                 Date: 03-Sep-04  @  04:05 PM   -   russia

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when will man's spirit learn to accept the rule of a larger omnipotent police-state and
learn to denounce the desire to live free and independent lives?

and why is the U.S. so eager to help russia maintain it's borders now...when not that long ago....it denounced it as empire?
and actually spent mega-billions trying to contain it?
in some ways it might be more free...but is it?
how is it that those who were considered freedom-fighters are now be terrorists?

well....for one.....those poor children and their families.

it seems war has no prejudice against the innocent and never will.



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Message 71/88                 Date: 22-Sep-04  @  06:25 PM   -   RE: russia

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no I'm not - you can't seriously be suggesting that even in some ideal olde world going back even to caveman times culture people didnt value things... that's ludicrous.

I tell you what xoxos... I'll swap you a really NICE ripe plump banana.. I just happen to have one here in the kitchen... I'll swap it for all your recording gear, or hey, just your PC would do!!... fair swap?



c'mon!... lets trade !!

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Message 72/88                 Date: 22-Sep-04  @  06:36 PM   -   RE: russia

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*cough*

swap forum !



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Message 73/88                 Date: 22-Sep-04  @  08:16 PM   -   RE: russia

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sorry  

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Message 74/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  12:16 AM   -   RE: russia

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i'll trade you my airport for your banana!!!
how plump is it?

well then.....hmmmm......the monet will have to do.
wait wait wait....the manet!


now james a baker the 3rd is worth about 500,000 a day.

now miguel....he's 60 a day....
and someone's logic don't suck ripe fruit here.



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Message 75/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  01:26 AM   -   RE: russia

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it's actually more like TWICE that.
that was the sum required (500,00) for him to just make one phone call
to help seal an oil deal in eastern europe.


now we're talking about government servants here. ..... . ... . but alas.
also the most secretive america or the world has ever known.

now...bananas for studios.....

the value of human life.....

personal suffering...what's THAT cost?



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Message 76/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  06:43 AM   -   RE: russia

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anyone could say a banana is worth FAR less than x's studio.
but given the right conditions......
it's conceivable that x's studio might be worth less than a banana......(and nature is often violently fickle and arbitrary in this sense....say if electrical power were to become scarce......
as well as food).

then the banana is worth much MORE since you can't eat x's nord lead....and you can eat a banana.
the price we put on things is determined by people.
.....and people are not infallible in their judgments...collective or otherwise.

people can trade sheep for oranges...that's a good thing.
but we're so far beyond that at this point.
there's too many people involved to have the very few horde what it can at the
detriment of the larger global cell-structure.
money is simply the articulation of that system's value judgments imposed upon the
many.
not everything can or should be equal but a balance must be achieved...
and we're not even close to that.
in fact.....what we have is exactly the opposite of that.



i can be on the internet and find works by peter bardens and suzanne ciani and steve hillage for 2.00....sometimes 99 cents.... and people won't even be looking at the stuff....
and yet
britney spears cds WILL sell for ten times that.
people would rather a big-screen than a library full of books.
they'd war rather peace and a commercial to tell them why.....where and how long.

the list of crap is long and ugly.

the list of wonderful things is long and beautiful too.....
but you gotta want to find it.
and you gotta know where to look.

and that place ain't in your wallet......unless it is.....
then you're just comfortably lost.



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Message 77/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  10:27 AM   -   RE: russia

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so what's your point?

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Message 78/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  04:05 PM   -   RE: russia

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just killing time mate.



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Message 79/88                 Date: 23-Sep-04  @  04:31 PM   -   RE: russia

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i'm not really sure why you are pissing on me, k. what i am suggesting is the abandonment of the concept of liquidity, and subsequently the reliance, no.. insistence.. on trade for goods.

imagine there are 10 recording studios, all in the same big city. wouldn't you agree that each of these recording studios should be allowed to operate w/o forced cooperation?

if two of these studios wanted to cooperate, they could do so perfectly well on a tactical basis. both items have memory and an existence that spans time, so it isn't necessary to instantly provide reciprocity in all exchanges, is it?

in fact, it is likely that both studios are operated by entrepeneurs who would rather enthusiastically steer their own course.

now, if these entrepeneurs were to fortify their environment instead of their personal stockpiles..



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Message 80/88                 Date: 24-Sep-04  @  03:45 PM   -   RE: russia

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Yeah, well just cos i' wont eccept trite hippy quasi socialist thinking that doesnt mean i'm pissing on your xoxos - but what is the point of wishing everyday for something totaly unatainable (is my point), and not very realisticaly at that

it's not as fantastic as you make out I dont think - Have you ever worked in TOTAL isolation with no human contact for 3 months in rain & blizzards clearing woodland, chopping down trees and putting up miles of sheep fence?

I have and it's no fun!

and if there's no trade for goods, i cant figure out how people get stuff they need but cant get themselves - how would you say that would work? - I cant see how.

Like for example - you have a smallholding - you need wood for the fires or you'll freeze, you dont have trees, BUt you have alot of sheep - so you trade sheep at the market for wood - isnt that sensible?

How are you suggesting it could work? (i cant grasp your theory mebbe) - or mebbe you explain things so crypticaly I just dont get it! ??

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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