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Original Message 1/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  09:02 PM   -   The Iraq War- History Lesson

S1GNALRUNNERS - Andrew

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Flame me but alot of people who post in the lounge section don't know why republicans support the iraq war.

September 11th- Radical Muslims attack the united states and they finally get a taste of what terrorism is. We know who did it: a radical muslim who believes it is willed by his god to eliminate american culture. This is NOT relating to ANY events. Radical muslims despise the entire way that they view american culture, even though most haven't even been to america.

sidetrack: Did you know what the terrorists watched before they attacked the US? Baywatch. They don't hate us because of our politics, they hate our culture and they view our culture through television. Baywatch "hyped" them up for their attack against the united states.

Many people died and it was pretty much a kick in the balls for the US. We FINALLY come to our senses and realize how much of a threat radical Muslims pose against the future of the US and other countries.

Where do the majority of radical muslims live? The middle east.

Now why attack Iraq? Well it's simple yet complicated. Iraq has an absolutely insane amount of oil as you all know. Something you might not have known- what other natural resource is incredibly abundant under their soil? Water.

What can you do with both oil and water? Natural gas = fertilizer. Fertilizer + water ======= you do the math.

With the ability to have incredible economic benifits, Iraq has the ability to become the greatest nation in the middle east. Iraqis also are one of the most well educated people in the middle east- and they are also not lazy.

Now we've got means for a great economy, people who will make that economy happen- but we've got a problem. Dictator from hell. So the United states sees a chance to remove the dictator, take out as many terrorists who would make it even harder to spread democracy to iraq. Once Iraq becomes a democratic society and has the economic resources to become wealthy and has people who will work for it, whats next?

Ripple effect. Iraq becomes a great nation, the ripple spreads through the middle east. Once things get straightened out there, people will start to realize, hey democracy aint so bad! And once surrounding countries see how well iraq is doing, it spreads to them as well.

The entire Iraq war can be summed up in those two words ripple effect.

There is ABSOLUTELY no FUCKING way to negotiate with terrorists. How the hell are you supposed to tell someone "hey, your god is wrong, so please dont kill us, aight?"

Sure we could have captured Bin Laden, thrown him in jail- then what? We'd have nothing but more radical muslims spawning from his wake. Through this ripple effect that will be sent through the middle east, it changes radical ideals in bulk.

Of course, this is a HUGE generalization. This isn't going to happen over night. This is something that is going to evolve over time, and take time to set in.

Still I know that this will not be enough for you guys, and i know this isnt going to change any of your opinions--- im not trying to- but it sounds like the right idea to over half of the country. I know I'll probably get torn to shreds for posting this, but this isn't a dig on anyone, just a republican point of view on the war in Iraq, and after all, republicans did start the war.

Now I'm getting a bit faklempt! Discuss amongst yourselves...here's a topic....why republicans support the iraq war!



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Message 2/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  09:20 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Oh and an addition: 80% of american troops voted bush back in office.



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Message 3/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  09:38 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Because they're fucking idiots who write the most romantic excuses for war to feel even better (read superior) than they did before!

There's no improvement in you...



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Message 4/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  10:21 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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it was republicans that helped provide iraq the gift of saddam hussein.

charitable...compassionate....daddy.


no digs...just the facts.
i love hearing republicans stutter on about that one.
"well...he was better than having some radical muslims in there.
how were we to know?"

how about the fact that we knew he was a murderer at the age of 13?
clue maybe?!!?!


der.



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Message 5/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  10:31 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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This is the most disgusting reason for invading a sovereign nation that I've ever heard.

Thanks for making it clear... now I'm even more pissed off about how selfish and rotten the majority of Americans are.

Try for a minute to take a wholistic look at the world. What makes you think that they WANT what we have? This is the same mentallity these same people use in thinking that my 4 year old son needs to be SAVED from my misguided religion.

Look... whatever the reason, it was selfish, greedy and motivated by a megalomaniacal view. It's sick and twisted and wrong. Those 3000 people who died on 9/11 didn't deserve it.... they shouldn't have been thrust into the horrible position of leaping from the crumbling towers.

The little burnt up 5 year old kid that was found on the road to Baghdad, having been struck by US munitions... didn't deserve it... he shouldn't have died crying for his mother in the arms of the officer that ordered his death.

Fucking republicans, and all the half wits who signed on this week... they don't LIVE there, they don't see this. New York and Pennsylvania both voted for the challenger... like how Europe GETS that war sucks and people die and it's not ok cause they lived it maybe? Maybe.

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Message 6/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  10:38 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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This post just GALLS me... believe what you want man... I'm not bashing you , Andrew... not this time

This motivation is "It's a strategic move to secure the safety of the United States"

A startegy, to roll over little kids. Demolish homes!!! Kill people, to make me safer!

Think about it... man...

this excuse advocates the idea that it's exceptable to buy my safety with the lives of others. others who had NOTHING whatsoever to do with my safety. They were, casualties... an awful word that means they aren't formal!!! they aren't official deaths... just the casual by product of securing my "GOD" given right to wallow in my own shit and behave like a xenophobic, self righteous moron.

Arh... it's fuckin' galling man...

just infuriating that ANYONE thinks this way... let alone the majority!!!

Ya know, America could have been a really decent amazing experiment. Give people the right to choose and give them the resources to achieve... give them a constitution that guarantees all these things, and a sense of responsibility...

And what do they do with it! They piss it away on fear, tribalism and greed!

Fuck you

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Message 7/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  10:39 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Message 8/38                 Date: 03-Nov-04  @  10:52 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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lovely metaphor mcc... thanks

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Message 9/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  02:17 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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I get what you're saying Andrew, so you support the idea that you can bring a stable civilised society thru economic means - which is probably true, no-one riots when they are well fed and happy


However - what's happened in Afghanistan since the war ended? - nothing, except they are wacking out herion onto the global market again like it's going out of fashion.

the hard facts are that the USA economy is absolutely dire at the moment, the US doesnt have the money to regenerate Afghanistan or Iraq.

ergo - no ripple effect.

Instead all we've got is MILLIONS MORE raving anti-US nutters & the USA is gradualy isolating itself globaly, and you're economy cant take that mate.


then what? - dude, you say you care about your country, i dont think you've thought this thru LONGTERM

tell me, as a republican, HOW is all this going to be paid for? - if youre economy is going down,and you need to spend MORE. not only on the war itself and international policing but also 'rebuilding' to cause the ripple effect and stabilise a place

How is Bush going to do it?

I submit therefore that WHATEVER your BELIEFS in this area, the PLAN is UN-workable.


The usa is mired in a economy-draining 'war' with no way out except a climb down or a commitment to massive spending on a permenant occupying army abroad. - at the end of the day the only relevent thing here surely is - when the dust settles THERE'S STILL NO GAME PLAN.

(same for the UK, we got no dentists for example, but we can spend billions supporting some shit that totakly doesnt have ANYTHING to do with us as a nation of people.)

that's a joke.

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 10/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  02:53 AM     Edit: 04-Nov-04  |  02:58 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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"September 11th- Radical Muslims attack the united states and they finally get a taste of what terrorism is. We know who did it: a radical muslim who believes it is willed by his god to eliminate american culture. This is NOT relating to ANY events. Radical muslims despise the entire way that they view american culture, even though most haven't even been to america."

Asshole it wasn't IRAQ. Get that through your dumb fucking head finally.

Clinton tried to warn Bush about Bin Laden saying he was the most dangerous person in the world. The CIA tried to take Bin Laden out under Clinton and failed because they underestimated his network. The Clinton admin considered using cruise missiles in Afghanistan but because of international concerns decided to go with covert operations which failed, again because they underestimated Bin Ladens network and stealthiness. Bush refused to listen to Clinton's warning and kept talking about getting Saddam Hussein. So Saddam who was not a threat is caught and Bin Laden who is a threat is free as a bird so fuck you stupid republican asshole. And bring it you pussies.

American soldiers are dieing for no good reason in Iraq other than the oil. I hope you sleep well at night moron. I hope you're happy shelling out bucks for Haliburton, if you pay taxes yet. Fuck you you're not an American, bitch.



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Message 11/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:06 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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give em some time to go ask dad.

we can only memorize so much bs in one day ya know???
look at cheney...now there's a lifetime of practice in that buzzard.



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Message 12/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:24 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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you know sitar....dems be fightin words bruva.
i like that in you sometimes.

but you can't be picking one with some kid who's never held a real job yet and has had everything handed to him....and has inherited a certain foul callousness when it comes to his worldview.

if it makes you feel better.....i'm back in imperial beach again doing this job and old SEAL TEAM ONE republican-italian lou....comes up behind me while i'm working
this morning and asks me what i'm doing?...and i say HEIL HITLER>



i'm sealing these tiles with this 'natural look' sealer.
look...doesn't it look nice?



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Message 13/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:38 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

S1GNALRUNNERS - Andrew

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I am absolutely finished talking politics with you all, but i'd be glad to give you help when it comes to the music tech section



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Message 14/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:50 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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that's how bush's best buddy james a baker lll would say it is done.
just do the deed.....but quietly.

considering your roots.....you should know that one by now.



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Message 15/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  04:04 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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damn, sitar. not used to seeing you angry

andrew, Im sorry man, but...youre just too smug and unaware. youll make a great pupp...errrr...politician someday.

just like all the "republicans" Ive listened to...its like its this beautiful benign effort, and the chaos and destruction are justified.

and yes...so we can guarantee our safety, eh?

damn. I get sadder and sadder and sadder. Ive considered doing some pretty rash things today...cant say that Im still not considering them



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Message 16/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  04:36 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Get a grip folks.

really.



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Message 17/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  05:43 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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hey....i was almost smiling when i said HEIL HITLER> this morning.



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Message 18/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  06:19 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Ive got a grip, psylichon. I dont get what you mean though...are you not affected by this at all?

I doubt that



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Message 19/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  07:21 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Some guy at work today said, "Life will go on, it's not the end of the world"

Not for me maybe, I have a fairly secure job, and I'm a straight white male in Amerrica

But for some unsuspecting Arabs it won't! Or for the unfortunate kids waiting for a carbomb to blow 'em right out of their flack vests it won't.

Or for my dear friend who works for AOL and is being layed off ten days before christmas!!! Life might go on, he ain't gonna die... but SURVIVAL isn't what we vote for in ... oh wait... yes it is, isn't it?

"get a grip"... like there's over reaction here?

I don't see the 48% makin' a fuss. I don't see people in the streets pissed off because now 48% of america is completelky disenfranchised and unrepresented in our representative government.

And even then I wouldn't call it over reaction.

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Message 20/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  08:05 AM     Edit: 04-Nov-04  |  08:06 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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weeeeeeeeeeeeeew I'll be the poor uk signalrunner then

angry angry angry!

Ma man Andrews taking it tight, shame on you people who directed full on personal insults - were taslking about a 'stupid little kid' here right? 1 guy who omfgidie has a different opinion than you? yeah i see that instantly makes him a pussy, asshole, cunt, fuck, etc... very mature, very much head and shoulders above a 'spoilt little brat'

Me and the young un dont speak about politics too much, and i can understand (*or try) how let down u must be feeling about your countrymen/surroundings even if im not expressing opinion, one thing tho that i never fully discovered an answer to-

Bearing in mind theres no time machines to go back and chgange things, this is happening NOW, no matter whos fault it is ( the ammount of people ive heard say 'kerry would never have put the country to war etc ' when in actual fact theres nothing can be done now) but, if Kerry had won, what would the iraq situation be a year from now? And what is your understanding of what he said he'd do? (serious questions)

Blu



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Message 21/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  08:48 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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i don't believe he would have gotten in there...

and, because of that, I believe he would not take us elsewhere. I'm not convinvced that this president my fellows have picked for me won't take us to another country. Not at all... see? The time machine doens't completely allow for honesty... cause If you and I were mates, and I had you over for the first time and came out of the kitchen to find you throwing shit at my neighbors, or pilfering my ashtray, or beating on my kid... I wouldn't have you back... but that doesn't mean I wouldn't have anyone else over, ever.

so what's happened matters... it is in fact, the most imprtant thing. This election over here wasn't about who was right for the job, it was about how WRONG Bush is. But in the end, that's really why Kerry lost, not enough about him to bring people out. Shrug

Frankly, this election (and to a lesser extant the last one) wasn;t about the candidates at all. We're not capable oif that right now. There's a culture war going on in America right now. Very different polarized cultures living int he same space. Like the Homo Sapiens and the Neanderthals living togehter for century's, but eventualy it had to come. We have diametricaly opposed opinions about what's right...

I know how that sounds, and I'm not happy about it... but you can see by my posts I'm a part of it... I can't stand the narrow, selfsish greed anymore... and neither can A LOT of other people. And my neighbors feel the same about me, I'm without morals, godless and a terrorist synpathizer. Until we can all get past that shit, we're gonna keep wrecking things.. but how doi I get past behavior I find moraly repugnant... and how do they get past the same?

I'm heartened at least, that Andrew seems to be an issues conservative... he hasn't made mention at all of the gay marriage ban in our country (And I am NOT inviting him to). Frankly it's gay marriage that won this for Bush... We have a huge moralistic, self righteous population that feels that there's not enough of their god, and their beliefs in their country anymore... and they think Bush will return uis to a time when prayer, simplicity and HETEROSEXUALITY where the only tolerable norms.

but hey...

thanks for asking seriously.. it's real easy in this atmosphere to get cuaght up in the militant "it should be obvious" mindset...

Really

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Message 22/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  08:49 AM     Edit: 04-Nov-04  |  09:24 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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HI Andrew, you are making me look like an early adopter

"September 11th...We know who did it" - Do we? there is a possibility that it was a missile strike on the pentagon, and if thats being covered up then we can implicate the US gov in this action, but if we stick with your assumption and remove the 'group definitions" then it was a spoilt rich kids son (ring any bells?)

"Radical muslims despise the entire way that they view american culture, even though most haven't even been to america."- think about the cost of your lifestyle, see the link above and tell me that you have no questions about the worth of the American Way

"radical Muslims pose against the future of the US and other countries." and how was this threat expressed, where were the massive killing fields, how did we identify this threat, where were the wmd, what are the comparative homicide figures for muslim and christian communities, how many people are being killed by muslims based cultures and how many by christian based cultures, who is the threat?

"Now why attack Iraq?" I also suggest - easy hate figure, finish off dads failure, oil, more defence spending, distraction from failure in Afganistan"

"Sure we could have captured Bin Laden, thrown him in jail- then what? We'd have nothing but more radical muslims spawning from his wake. " And just what is killing 100,000 Iraq's doing to the average teenage boy over there

"... This is something that is going to evolve over time, and take time to set in." So history will tell, so even if it is wrong we cannot comment on it now, so all of these actions are correct and we cannot understand the big picture, cruel to be kind Andrew? the more cruel - the more kind.

The fundamental problem here Andrew is that the US rarely travels, yet it increasingly directly influences the world. So you make judgements about other nations without the experience of their culture. OK the US and western culture do great things but the philosophy is not tennable, not sustainable, its based on consumption. More generally we destroy that which don't understand and fear and on the other side we bully those with less power than us, OK this is human but we know the size of the earth, its contents - these are not heady days of limitless horizons and discovery but increasingly they appear to be days of greed and consolidation on an individual, national and cultural level.

The use of the "Radical Muselim" by the Bush administration is a defining moment in a shrinking world. Its a mechanism to create a 'bogey man' to blame and the fact that Kerry backed this up the US voters fell for it means that humanity have learned nothing and for all of our science and art we are virus

Andrew you cannot sing of pain, you cannot sing of brother



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Message 23/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  10:44 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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oh great -

But Andrew - I DIDN'T insult you - I replied sensibly - so i'd appreciate you taking that honourably and attempting to reply - here's what I wrote again

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I get what you're saying Andrew, so you support the idea that you can bring a stable civilised society thru economic means - which is probably true, no-one riots when they are well fed and happy


However - what's happened in Afghanistan since the war ended? - nothing, except they are wacking out herion onto the global market again like it's going out of fashion.

the hard facts are that the USA economy is absolutely dire at the moment, the US doesnt have the money to regenerate Afghanistan or Iraq.

ergo - no ripple effect.

Instead all we've got is MILLIONS MORE raving anti-US nutters & the USA is gradualy isolating itself globaly, and you're economy cant take that mate.


then what? - dude, you say you care about your country, i dont think you've thought this thru LONGTERM

tell me, as a republican, HOW is all this going to be paid for? - if youre economy is going down,and you need to spend MORE. not only on the war itself and international policing but also 'rebuilding' to cause the ripple effect and stabilise a place

How is Bush going to do it?

I submit therefore that WHATEVER your BELIEFS in this area, the PLAN is UN-workable.


The usa is mired in a economy-draining 'war' with no way out except a climb down or a commitment to massive spending on a permenant occupying army abroad. - at the end of the day the only relevent thing here surely is - when the dust settles THERE'S STILL NO GAME PLAN.


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SO - I ask SERIOUSLY - I'm asking you are a republican supporter - and here's your chance to tell people exactly why you voted for a continuation of the current policy

How is Bush going to do it? - resaurrect the economy AND fight the war on terror AND rebuild Iraq

PLEASE take this seriously - I am prepared to treat you with enuff respect, and listen to your Party's plans ....so...


How is Bush going to do it?

and everyone else can shutup for a while (please) and let the poor guy answer

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 24/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  11:43 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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sorry - i'll start a new thread - i just didnt want the question to get lost in a mire of mudslinging - but you carry on mudslinging - lol - i'll pop this in a new thread

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 25/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  02:11 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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out of sheer curiosity, do you brits have an alternative to blair ? election in a year or something, right ?



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Message 26/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:06 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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hey dickwad, that 'ripple effect..' you might want to send some of it round tucson way.. cos we only know it as te "trickle up economics"

you're fucking fooling yourself. fucking idiot dickwad, thinking american culure brings prosperity.. ever fucknig been to the u.s.???!?!?!?!?!



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Message 27/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:15 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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sitar! i didn't think you had an bitter bone in your body.

glad to see it, here i stand.



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Message 28/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  03:47 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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nope we dont have another option in the UK - the opposition is some retard fuckwit who looks like dracula and is about as popular as a fart in a submarine (he was one of thatchers old cronies)

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 29/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  05:33 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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as popular as a far in a submarine. damn. thats..uh...not very popular!



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Message 30/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  05:48 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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yeah well.....

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Message 31/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  07:45 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Andrew, had I known your age I wouldn't have laid into you that way. It's good you're thinking about politics but you have to really think hard about some things. Mainly you need to realize that killing is something one does as a last last last resort. This isn't a vid game over in Iraq. When we went Rumsfeld said there would be no american deaths and because of our precision military, very few iraqi civilian deaths. And we've all seen Bush's mission accomplished photo op. It shows how out of touch this administration is with human beings and the human heart.

On the economic side, I woke up again this morning to the business report. Joe Connelly of the Wall Street Journal said the stock market rallied yesterday on news that Bush won. Some reasons:

Wall Street believes Bush will strive to ban citizens of the US from getting affordable prescription drugs from Canada, something the pharmaceutical companies like to hear.

Bush will push for allowing more coal production...bad for the environment.

Bush will push to privatize our social security money. You can kiss that money goodbye with businesses being regulated far less than the federal government. Too many business people can't be trusted with other people's money. Unfortunate fact of life. Look at the Enron executives that were caught on tape singing "burn baby burn" while watching California wildfires. All they could think about is the money that would go into their pockets. And we don't even have to go there.



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Message 32/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  08:45 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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its just amazing to me that anyone, absolutely anyone, could look at these things and say "yup, all's well"

enron, MCI/WorldCom, Adelphia...the list goes on and on and on

corporations rule, or at least are in favor

now I feel sick again. thanks sitar :~|



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Message 33/38                 Date: 04-Nov-04  @  11:28 PM     Edit: 04-Nov-04  |  11:29 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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Anytime Influx I bet you're tee'd off now



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Message 34/38                 Date: 05-Nov-04  @  10:49 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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If you ask a question then people take time to answer - even if they are all slating you - and you wash your hands of it without answering is disrespectful and pussy lightweight.

I dont give a toss if you 'feel' that you only need to answer k, I put up points from your opening post which are pretty straightforward comments that bring something to the argument and where is the comeback Andrew?

If you aint going to respect effort when you ask for it- then you are a troll and according to k's new 'rules' that aint allowed. Can we kick him out please K?

FU and your H2



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Message 35/38                 Date: 05-Nov-04  @  11:39 AM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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er.... when i think of troll and DT, Andrews hardly the person/people who come to mind

A troll would be someone posting utter shite on a forum that they had no otherwise-site related topical involment in-

Dancetech- Andrews regularly posting in all the musical/tech/ forums and discussions (you know the bar on the left hand side - CONCEPT!!! )

I just checked your profile, funny, theres zip all there *reads second sentence again*

ohhhhhhhh thats right.....

blu



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Message 36/38                 Date: 05-Nov-04  @  12:56 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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so Andrew when did you decide to log in as your partner



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Message 37/38                 Date: 05-Nov-04  @  01:08 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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er.....

*BLU*



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Message 38/38                 Date: 05-Nov-04  @  03:23 PM   -   RE: The Iraq War- History Lesson

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"potty mouth"



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