Original Message                 Date: 23-Jun-02  @  10:56 AM   -   Influx needs some help

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OK here's the deal.

almost 2 years ago I worked on a track with this guy. Without breaking it down to numbers the work was mostly me. My studio, my engineering, MY time for the most part (I think he spent 2 maybe 3 days at my pad?)

so...every time he left, I would go back in and tighten shit up...cuz this guy wanted to put every single idea he ever had into ONE track...

eventually I said LOOK this is DONE for now, but I dont want it public.

he wanted otherwise but I said NO. Its not ready, my style isnt ready, the mix aint right blah blah blah

well, it turns out he went and got it released. Financed on his own (someone else apparently paid for it) and it has sold close to 500 copies(? not sure on the exact number)

I just got an email from a friend who pointed out that Release in Canada has it...which means it has gotten around, you know?

thing is..the guy changed the title, and my name is NOT on it AT ALL

he ing calls me "nflux" in the promo he sent out, says I've worked with Uberzone, etc...which is just wack.

I dont know what to do. Im not worried about money but the thought of someone slighting me in this way just makes me want to revert back to the old days where my fists were my means of communication

WHAT DO I DO? please help me before I just kick this dudes ass!!! I cant tell if he's truly a swindler or just not aware of what he is doing!!!!!

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Message 21/45                 Date: 24-Jun-02  @  10:44 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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well..to be honest Im not so worried about it

I just want proper credit, thats all.

and I dont like what he did...calling me part of this crew, etc.

whatever, I guess.

I think Im gonna still release a proper mix of it on my own or some shit

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Message 22/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  08:12 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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do it! do it now! just release that fucker and people will be instantly interested after seeing the other one! they'll be like.. "ooh, it's a thing going on" because there's two records. like when an artist does more than one, you know?

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Message 23/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  08:48 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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BREAKS WARS!!!

like old hip hop answer records. go go go!

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Message 24/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  08:58 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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thats the answer, innit. off to work I go!

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Message 25/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  09:24 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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It sounds like the problem here is you're pissed that he did this when you didn't want it done. If you have a problem with it than the answer is already there. Do it the way it should be and get on with your life... or don't sweat it since you say it's bad! Just make him take your name off of it and let it go.

He probably does not agree that it was mostly you (that's how these things are, and it's never worth arguing about). So I'm sure he feels he's done nothing wrong. Getting pissed and smackin' him around is a waste of time and will come back to hurt you!

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Message 26/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  10:29 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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if he tried to argue where the track truly came from I would just laugh. I know the truth. This isnt an ego thing...

there are two parts tho..A)he went too far with it (you should read the promo he sent out which says that I worked with UBERZONE) and B)he is SELLING it....and someone might be making money, but not me. Off MY stuff.

Im gonna do my own version. He called it Rolling Blackout, but I had called it Syntax Error. Any creative suggestions as to how to say "This is the proper mix of this other track you may have heard elsewhere"?

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Message 27/45                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  11:14 PM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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well, dig this. you have the MIDI files, right? All the samples, sequences and all that shit, right? Archive it onto a CD. Get it all copywritten, if he hasn't already.

He's just got the audio, right? If you hold the rights on the sounds and the components to meke the tune, and do a remix, or udate or whatever, then it serves to reason that you are covered.

Another thing, if you don't care about loot, then don't act like you do. You have worked with Q for years, even if it's sweeping his studio floor. Technically, the guy is RIGHT in that case. Now, he DOES have to credit you. Period. If not, then fuck the law, burn his house to the ground if he doesn't, or his car, or whatever, but make him hurt. Don't hurt anybody physically and don't get caught. Send me an email. If he's not hurting you, then take the publicity, and use every connection you have. Cut this self-conscious, self-abusive bullshit out. You've been at this a long time. Go ahead and succeed.

If this is just some stupid shit (and it sounds like it is, as you don't even like the tune)....then why are you dwelling on it? Pluck the tick, flush it down the toilet, and keep walking, but stay out of that patch of grass where you picked the tick up, and check yourself for others more frequently.

Now...get out there, and do your good shit, and for fucks sake, get into reality, and get out there on the fucking stage, Influx!!! Don't make me come down there, end up on your doorstep and physically fucking drag you kicking and screaming onto a stage to play. I'll do it. I'm not kidding.


Ape

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Message 28/45                 Date: 26-Jun-02  @  01:26 AM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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ahahahahah! pluck the tick.

youre right.

but:
"Cut this self-conscious, self-abusive bullshit out

what the fuck is that?

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Message 29/45                 Date: 26-Jun-02  @  02:50 AM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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You have been doing this (music) for YEARS. PLAY OUT!!!


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Message 30/45                 Date: 26-Jun-02  @  04:01 AM   -   RE: Influx needs some help

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no no..but what is self conscious and self abusive here?

and...what if it all came down to I didnt really WANT to "play live"?  it IS a hassle, and IS risky for gear..

(not really..I do want to..and do plan on it)

but where did self conscious and self abusive come from? Did you see me flogging myself shyly somewhere?;)

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