Original Message                 Date: 23-Feb-01  @  07:17 PM   -   EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

dance, rummy!

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once again, for the benefit of all, I'd like to hear some thoughts about Eq'ing the bass drum with sub-bass.....
this is geared towards songs with 2 basslines that are working together...



I've heard before that the part of the BD that hits you in the chest is between 100 and 200Hz. Even-handed guy that I am, I usually put a medium-size notch on the sub-bassline at 150Hz, with a cut of 3-5dB, to make room for the bass drum



Also, since I want the sub to come through, I usually roll-off any sub freq's from the bass drum starting about 100Hz using a HPF.



I remain unsatisfied with this approach. It seems too simple, and most times it doesn't get the definition I would like. There has to be something more (better) I can do to increase the definition on the bottom end...




I am hesitant to boost the mids on anything because I'm trying to use another bassline sound above the kick, with little or no sub in it.... d&b heads know what I mean -- that growling HPF'd bassline that keeps whacking your ear while the lower line moves the air....



any comments are welcome.....

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Message 21/26                 Date: 05-Mar-01  @  12:05 PM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

ville

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I have this testCD with pure sine waves from 20HZ to 22 Khz. You can't really hear anything put you can see meter flashing.
Once i left 20 Khz sinewzve looping at moderate (not very hight) level and left my friend waiting me in my flat while went buying cigarets. When i came back he said that he had a headache and heard wierd "ping" constantly in his head.
I felt terrible.
Headache went away pretty soon after i took the CD out.

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Message 22/26                 Date: 05-Mar-01  @  08:53 PM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

influx

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yeah, good thing those frequencies are there eating up headroom

and...no, manufacturers NEVER lie about the performance of their product. especially the expensive ones!

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Message 23/26                 Date: 06-Mar-01  @  10:55 PM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

hector

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did you know tht the nazis used to blow people up in rooms by blasting them with sub bass at 4hz,nasty.

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Message 24/26                 Date: 21-Mar-01  @  06:26 PM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

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Ahhh, it's 41.2 fer dat low E. K's got a chart of midi note-->fundamental frequency up in the tech tables section.

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Message 25/26                 Date: 23-Mar-01  @  05:03 AM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

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parametrics is what you want to boost the bass without boosting other shit..- also when boosting the kik on a coomon style mixer with shelving bass eq, it is going to push up the low mid around 200-250hz, muddying up the mid,... so cut some 200-250hz mid with the sweep eq a tad and see if that tightens up the definition -

the main rule for drum & bass that shatters walls tho is... no reverb.. or hardly any cos reverb destroys definition and the percieved volume of sounds - this goes for alot of dance - reverb is a killer unless used just right, so try removing it... your tracks might sound 'dry' at home, but roll off the top end crank it up & it bangs like fuck compared to tracks with lots of reverbs on them.... kiks @ around 100hz for the 'energy' the bass 60-80.. 'roll offf' the bass at 20-40hz for low subass or 40-60 for less boomshaka sounds - and try some soft knee subtle comp on the bass unless your already pumping it.. but get into your comp' alot anyways...

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Message 26/26                 Date: 23-Mar-01  @  05:05 AM   -   RE: EQ'ing bass drum and basslines

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oh.. and invest in a 12 bit sampler.. they are cheap - and totally untouchable for dance - drums will NEVER have the same 'crack' with a 16 bit smapler at any price - the old emax rules for this task both for price and sound quality.

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