Original Message                 Date: 22-Oct-04  @  07:05 PM   -   Passive control for DAW volume

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http://www.smproaudio.com/mpatch.htm

only thing is its missing a fcking headphone output. SUCKS

I remember milan was griping about nobody making something like this. Now theres the Samson C-Control, Mackie Big Knob, and this one...plus some high end from Coleman and CraneSong I believe

I was so stoked on this M-Patch until I realized no fcking headphone out put. thats lame

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Message 11/20                 Date: 02-Dec-04  @  07:38 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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K... just looked it up. i can add reviews. i'll sort it out over the weekend i think  

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Message 12/20                 Date: 02-Dec-04  @  07:42 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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Message 13/20                 Date: 03-Dec-04  @  03:41 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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ok... i'm kinda pissed now. left output is louder by 0.4dB, just measured it by recording out from the speaker-A out back into logic. you wouldnt think it would be noticable, but aparently it is... probably why i only heard it with volume almost all the way down.

mabye it wouldnt be a problem if speaker outs -B and -C werent on RCA connectors only... bah

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Message 14/20                 Date: 05-Dec-04  @  11:43 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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shit. thats not good!

altho...is that across the board or only at low volumes?

my ashly mixer I had...did the same thing...quieter on one side at low volumes

if only that damn passive one had a headphone out!

might have to try the big knob

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Message 15/20                 Date: 08-Dec-04  @  02:18 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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influx: only at the very bottom of the scale, then it gets better (unnoticeable under my listening conditions), and dissapears when you turn it up further. this was all discovered after i recorded and measured the output from the speaker outs btw. apparently other people have noticed the same problem, but not on all units. so try before you buy i guess.

and while on topic of sound... the unit unfortunately does degrade your transients somewhat, so if you're monitoring on expensive speakers in a good listening enviroment you might wanna look into the BigKnob or something else instead.

then again, majority of ppl who use small nearfields do *not* hear those transients anyway, so its no loss in a typical home studio. all in all it still sounds nice and clear.

on the upside, i noticed another nifty feature btw: when you select an input for monitoring, it automaticaly cuts the feed to the corresponding output (2tk i/o A,B,C), so there's no chance of a feedback loop  

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Message 16/20                 Date: 08-Dec-04  @  02:21 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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its almost funny btw... with my new setup (FA101/C-Control) i got a better overall sound picture, but the transent response is totaly degraded compared to the Gina/Promix setup  

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Message 17/20                 Date: 08-Dec-04  @  09:00 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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milan

can you explain what you mean by transient response? Are you saying it would make a kick sound mushier than it was?

Im not working in a perfect room so I dunno if that would be as important.

and the monitoring, well...I could probably get used to that.

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Message 18/20                 Date: 08-Dec-04  @  10:16 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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milan, are you sure it's your outputs that are imbalanced and not the inputs to your soundcard?

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Message 19/20                 Date: 09-Dec-04  @  06:08 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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good question, altho..he's probably done that test before?

when I had a Delta66 I used to get one side hotter than the other. drove me NUTS!

never did figure out why.

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Message 20/20                 Date: 09-Dec-04  @  10:14 PM   -   RE: Passive control for DAW volume

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yeah i'm sure psy... altho not so sure you interpreted my post correctly or if its something else...

anyway, i took the unit back today and got a new one which works perfectly. i did a series of tests today, geek style  , and i dont think it degrades the signal much compared to the output of the soundcard.

i'll explain it all tomorrow, and then hopefuly string it all into a proper review for kilo  

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