Original Message                 Date: 29-Apr-02  @  03:57 PM   -   mixing for club sound systems

soulsurvivor

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When mxing dance music (house/techno etc)do people usually take into account how they will sound on club sound systems or should this not be considered?

Do club sound engineers re-eq the records on the fly anyway? I've also heard that all sound systems convert into mono before being transmitted to the speakers, is this true?

The reason I ask is I'm working on quite a clubby tune at the moment (sort of funky house)and I want to make sure it sounds good in the clubs (if it got that far). However, its quite bass heavey and sounds great on my Absolute 2's but Ive heard this are naturally quite bright and so Im worried Im over compensating for this.

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Message 11/26                 Date: 30-Apr-02  @  06:18 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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plus going to CD you can do what ever you want, but vinyl has limits to the way it handell phase and eq. A flat, balanced mix is best for the master house, for if you are just cutting a CD for people you may want to run it hotter and do a littel brightening so it sounds good in the car ant normal level etc. The dj monitors are made to go loud and not to be accurate. So they give you an idea of what you music is going to sound like blaring on a not so fgood system. They will let you know if you have mud or not. If things get burried that are key to the song. A part may drop out behind somthing else, but on the studio monitors, with good imaging, they sound clear. The most important thing big speaker do is let you know if the bass and kick are pumping properly.

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Message 12/26                 Date: 30-Apr-02  @  09:39 PM     Edit: 30-Apr-02  |  09:42 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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"Will you QUIT confusing people ?" she axed, smiling softly at him.

"Lovebirds..." whispered the guy behind the counter.

So we walked out of the Atlanta airport without my luggage, without any form of compensation.

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Message 13/26                 Date: 30-Apr-02  @  09:41 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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Is a sub-woofer a good idea or not ?

I'll see if I can clarify what I'm confused about sometime later tonight, but I suppose if I could make it clear I wouldn't really be confused in the first place...

ARGH!

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Message 14/26                 Date: 30-Apr-02  @  11:37 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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What you need, is Protools(tm).

;)

Michael.

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Message 15/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  12:01 AM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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funny!

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Message 16/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  12:41 AM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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subwoofer can be a good idea...a good setup with a solid crossover etc. Definitely give you an idea of what is at the bottom

BUT...again...JUST FUCKING DANCE MUSIC! Make it sound BIG and full, and enough bass...hell...mix it on auratones...get the bass where its just present but not farting anything out...and itll sound solid on pretty much anything

I always thought vinyl could handle a bit MORE than CD audio?

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Message 17/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  12:45 AM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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yeah and put some rhythms in it that interact a bit. what a fuss eh.

hey i i'll have those ragtime albums in the mail this week i promise. june bug jitterbug is the shit!

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Message 18/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  06:14 AM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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Influx - not in terms of actual hotness. Lots of lows and high highs muck with the vinyl cutting process more. You can go waaaaay hotter on CD, especially for longer tracks (over 8 minutes or thereabouts...). However, I'm also hearing that a lot of the vinyl mastering shops are now turning out masters from mixes that were "CD hot" and they're still sounding spot on, so...

Unfortunately, I've yet to be able to send out the same mixdown for vinyl as I have for CD. The places I've had to go through for vinyl generally want a mixdown that comes in peaking around -3db digital. Check with the mastering engineers directly if you can. Might save a lot of headache.

Pase

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Message 19/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  02:22 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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yes, intercuts are a lot more likely if you have big bottom on a long track, as the grooves have to be closer together on the longer songs.

I remember listening to an orbital track on the cd my freind had, so I went and got the vinyl albumn. The track was "Out there Somwhere" The vinyl has no bass and I had to crank up the bass on the eq for it sound adequate over the PA.

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Message 20/26                 Date: 01-May-02  @  10:38 PM   -   RE: mixing for club sound systems

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damn..but that just sounds like someone did a really bad job pressing it, no?

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