Original Message                 Date: 24-Mar-00  @  02:33 AM   -   Trance Keys

nickdej

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Ok, Im trying to make a trance song at the moment, I have done the beat and have a few pads etc. The only problem is I dont know much about keys (ya know the cool ones which sort of sound like an organ like in Gatecrasher -discotech). Could somebody please tell me where I could find a few samples or maybe even software to produce these sounds!

Many thanks

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Message 11/24                 Date: 03-May-00  @  08:04 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

seanysmetch

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try axs or simsynth they can create a large varity of noises

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Message 12/24                 Date: 05-May-00  @  03:57 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

nickdej

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Ok, could you email me the sample of the organ?
and do you know ifMaking waves midi?

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Message 13/24                 Date: 06-May-00  @  04:26 PM   -   RE: Trance Keys

da friendly trancer

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2 second trance groove, good luck cheesers,keep at it

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Message 14/24                 Date: 09-May-00  @  10:28 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

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Hope this is on topic - I've been told that 90% of
writing trance is production work. Trance may be the
most heavily produced of all the electornic genres.
It's a long way from decks, effects and 909   Trance
producers also can't just ride a beat for 32 bars
tweaking the hihats.

Choice of instrumentation is also key. Those interested
should check out the last few posts in 'music as
language' in Music Theory... I try to explain why we
all can benefit from using the same sounds.

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Message 15/24                 Date: 14-May-00  @  09:43 AM   -   curly poo

rs09

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Try this its a stomper man!

You will get to no. 1

go for it

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Message 16/24                 Date: 18-May-00  @  08:45 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

stephensb

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The best way to get good trance keys is to look at other songs...
Try Binary Finary's 1999
Here are the notes
Left Hand:
C,D,Eb,F,G
Right Hand:
C,F,G,A,Bb
This is pretty simple but you can mess around with it quite alot to make something completley different
Try it out...
Oh yeah and instrumentation is everything

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Message 17/24                 Date: 18-May-00  @  10:34 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

Jasper

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It's a long way from decks, effects and 909  

I had a listen to this album carefully to maybe pick up some tips about production - I've come to the conclusion that there is something going on to make it all sound like this... don't know what ritchie hawtin is doing but every track has the same production on it... sort of squeezed effect.. like really over compressing then over enhancing it or something..

I wouldn't use it as a reference for producing techno anyway.

trance if anything is just cleaner sounds, but the production isn't any better than techno.. IMO from experience with trance artists with stuff out..

personally I think trance is easier to engineer than techno.

sorry to but in.

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Message 18/24                 Date: 18-May-00  @  09:54 PM   -   RE: Trance Keys

steve

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thing about trance is that the production is very same-y across the board, but techno varies more between artists/tracks. techno has more room for experimentation in production where as trance is generally going for a particular vibe/feel.

but i don't know shit :-)

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Message 19/24                 Date: 19-May-00  @  10:07 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

Jasper

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I think you hit the nail on the head there.

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Message 20/24                 Date: 01-Jun-00  @  01:30 AM   -   RE: Trance Keys

make it breathe

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I just don't understand why anyone would like this stuff.But anyway it's not my place to judge.I think you are looking for that copression technique used by adrian sherwood on his dub tracks.If it's kind of a push pull sort of feel that is called pumping.don't use it on the bass freqs.just turn up the ratio reduce the threshold I think it's a fast attack and slow release. It's been a while since I've used this trick so I'm not sure.

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