Message 11/13
Date: 16-Jun-00 @ 07:45 AM -
RE: Trance Drums
CK? right, i've just tried what you're suggesting and i dunno but to me it sound fucking all over the place, it could be my sequencer setup (which is a bit ropey) now i've been making trance for a couple of years now and I think what you are talking about is actually an illusion and it has fooled you into thinking its down to quantisation, cos honestly, from experience I KNOW that not a lot of heavy quantisation goes on in trance music, there is a reason for this, you often have a lot of stuff going on at once and if there was "heavy quantisations" i.e. snares coming just before off beats it would make it very hard to keep everything sounding in time, to me it sounds messy, but again that could be my setup......
Most trance music was created on an MPC3000 and the quantisation used was THE UNMISTAKABLE akai slight shuffle, but it was VERY SLIGHT, now the illision that i'm trying to explain that i think you've mistaken for quantisation is actually down to clever use of rhythmic delay (make sure you have a high setting HF. damp), so sounds appear "two stage", kiks are definitely delay free, but with a slight reverb to add colour and help them sit in the mix, try a Lexicon style ambience setting...... the snares often have a slight delay on them giving that two stage effect and the hats have a longish decay, basslines always tend to have a rhythmic delay on them but it is so subtle that it's giving the tune drive without clouding it....... making a trance tune "roll" is often down to smart thinking production by making all the elements of the drums and percussion sit perfectly together, so nothing overtly stands out...... I've listened to Heaven Scent a million times and its DEFINITELY not quantisation that gives that effect, that's delay and smart use of compression for sure......
Now there are some trance tunes around that have a more dramatic shuffle to them try Logic's 16C for an idea but never anything more than that, unless you wanna head for that really groovy tech house effect.....
Laters,
JAWA