Original Message 1/20                 Date: 03-Mar-03  @  07:34 PM   -   dumb about digital mixers

knowa

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I'm not clear about the extent to which a digital mixer can be integrated into a software studio.

could e.g. the 01v be used as a combination powered plug-in/control surface? i.e. could individual mixer channels in reason be routed through the efx inside the 01v, like routing multiple channels to an aux send on the mackie 1202 (only mixer I've really used). or would I need a more sophisticated rewire host to do this?

about the motorized faders, do you just assign a fader to a particular mixer channel in reason (or logic) and it responds accordingly?

basically, I'm wondering of the 01v would let me mix tracks in reason (and logic if YOU pulaski ever get it togther) with real faders and a nice reverb. I have a slow 400 Mhz Mac that doesn't run reverb plugins too well so I'm curious about outboard. I use a 2408 MkII so I know I have digital i/o capability though I dunno much about them. TIA

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Message 2/20                 Date: 03-Mar-03  @  08:33 PM     Edit: 03-Mar-03  |  08:33 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

milan

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get a pc!  

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Message 3/20                 Date: 03-Mar-03  @  09:28 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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Yes, you can use it as a "powered plug-in card". Downsides - only one set of ADAT I/O (up to 2 in the 01V 24/96), so only 8 purely digital channels. For controlling software... I don't know about your environment, but in Sonar, there's a "learn" function. You right-click on the control you want to automate, select learn, and then move the fader on the 01V. It's that easy.

I've kind of found it to be more hassle than it's worth, in terms of using the mixer for processing, because you only have the 8 digital channels. I've thought about getting an analog I/O card to go along with my ADAT card, but have not done so. If you could get at least 16 channels into the mixer digitally I'd say it'd be perfect for what you're asking, but 8 channels digital is a little limiting.

I use it mostly as a "live" mixer when I'm working on things in the studio, then when I've got things sounding right I just strip off the channels I want and dump them into the PC. I sometimes use it for effects if I'm running out of juice (the distortion is great on vocals).

Let me know if there's any other ?'s I can answer for you.

-Craig

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Message 4/20                 Date: 03-Mar-03  @  10:51 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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i really don't think that yamaha reverb sounds that great anyways, unfortunately. (judging from a good bit of time on an rs7000, and a little bit of time on a friend's O1v). i'd rather use my intelliverb by far.

how about a UAD-1? does it work on macs?

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Message 5/20                 Date: 04-Mar-03  @  02:46 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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The thing about digital desks is that they're digital.

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Message 6/20                 Date: 04-Mar-03  @  04:28 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

the knowa

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thanks guys. craig, I wasn't joking about being dumb about digital mixers. I really don't understand what 8 channels means. I dunno Sonar, but I imagine it has something like the Mixer in VST... so where/how do you send channels from the software mixer to the desk? can you send multiple software-mixer channels to the same channel in the 01v? and when you export the track all the 01v processing is included?

I was thinking about the uad-1, but figured if I could get a motorized control surface with it, that would be better. if the reverb on the 01v is like the RS7k, forget it. I guess I'll end up with a cheap midi fader box and a UAD-1/and or a fast PC. I'm so comfortable using pre-prepared sounds in reason but that reverb is just killing me.

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Message 7/20                 Date: 04-Mar-03  @  05:14 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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8 channels = 8 streams. Any number of tracks can be bussed to external channels but then they are sharing so any eq, etc affects all sounds on that channel. In the VST mixer there is an output buss setting. Thats what you would use to send sounds out of reason or cubase or whatever.

you asked if mixdown would include channels sent to the O1v.

If you mean by using the mixdown function in cubase, then no.

what you would have to do is either send all the channels from cubase to the 01v and mix OUT of it (say through SPDIF or whatever) or just submix your 8adat sends back into cubase..

to be honest, for what you want to do...Id get a controller. Far more assignable. The o1v is gonna be limited in what it will do.

I havent touched one but theres the new Evolution controller for a fair price

oh, and UAD-1 rocks

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Message 8/20                 Date: 04-Mar-03  @  05:31 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

nomad

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you can't use the O1V as a plugin or anything like that. what it ends up looking like is an external box with 8 inputs and 8 outputs, which you have to send tracks (or busses) to, and return from, just like any other external effects box. only difference being that in this case, the I/O is digital instead of analog (and even that's not really a 'difference', like i think a ksp-8 effects processor can handle 8 inputs and 8 outputs, and through digital connections...)... if that makes sense.

it just ends up being a big external box.

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Message 9/20                 Date: 04-Mar-03  @  05:58 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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thanks that pretty much settles it.

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Message 10/20                 Date: 05-Mar-03  @  12:07 PM   -   RE: dumb about digital mixers

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Wouldn't it be better to just do your mixdown on the 01V, and aux-bus out to your computer, for reverb...etc. But for mixing down, I wanna get something outboard, I'm suprised I'm on my own on this one.

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