Original Message 1/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  01:39 PM   -   Can't get my compressor to

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All the people I've seen use compressors go for that "nice" sound. I want to get my unit to pump in time with my beats like the dance pro producers do.

How I understand it is that you send the grouped drum track to the stereo compressor and compress with the desired ratio. Then I make sure I have the fastest possible attack and release settings. Then I lengthen the release time until the drums pump (suck in and out) then back it off slightly.

This is what I've been doing but can't get it to work. Any advice?

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Message 2/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  01:47 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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maybe you need to desire more ratio. or lower the threshold. what compressor, btw? some are more polite, or musical, or less obvious in what they do, so you have to discipline them a bit more firmly to make them submit to your will.

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Message 3/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  02:05 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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Damballah, I've got a Focusrite Compounder.

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Message 4/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  03:08 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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try a longer attack & just throw out the manual...also threshold as mentioned, it has to be set actualy on the threshold so the pumping happens, there's no use having it so low the comp never recovers from compression, the idea is to make the comp continualy be switching in/out of compression with the 'pump' of the beat, so make sure the comp' indicator led-row (if you have one) is moving with the beat.

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Message 5/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  03:46 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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So is this technique supposed to be used on all percussions sounds together as a group, or would it do something good for separate sounds as well ?

I'm asking because I take some of the sounds from the Tr909 out separately to individual mixer channels.

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Message 6/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  04:21 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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My experience is that i.e. house,trance,techno needs almost extreme mastering settings but then again I'm quite unexperienced  

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Message 7/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  04:59 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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Cool. So should I be setting the threshold at zero then? Roughly how much DB reduction should be showing on the meters? Anything past 6db of reduction sounds to squashed but that could just be my ears and the room.

I read in magazines that you should compress dance music drums as hard as you can just before distortion kicks in. This ain't happening for me. I have to have the attack pot really slow (2 O'clock) otherwise it just makes my kicks sound weak and thin.

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Message 8/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  05:58 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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I think it's really fast attack and really slow decay. Or really slow attack and really fast decay.

Can't remember offhand...

I used to use a shitty Behringer Composer compressor and that had a tendency to pump.

Actually, I think the more expensive compressors pump less, because the manufacturers think that pumping is an unwanted side effect of compression. Bastards.

If you want Bounce, try sidechaining like the other thread describes...

 

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Message 9/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  06:00 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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is that tecnique supposed to be used in conjunction with a side chain insert or is that something else?

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Message 10/45                 Date: 08-May-02  @  06:04 PM   -   RE: Can't get my compressor to

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compounder'll do it, you just gotta be a little less polite with it. that thing's made to go from the transparent sort of compression you'd use on lead vocals to squashing the shit out of it. how much db reduction you need? a whole bunch -- you want it audible. then messing with the other controls will get you pumping. the "pump" is the comp going in and out of squashed mode rhythmically.

gb, compressing 'em all individually is different than compressing them as a group and making them pump. each way has its place.

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