Original Message 1/64                 Date: 06-Oct-01  @  02:26 AM   -   LIsten.....See if you like

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Listen to our song...tell me if you guys like and be brutally honest

Tim
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Message 2/64                 Date: 06-Oct-01  @  05:21 AM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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I really liked when the vocal sample started it was nicley arranged....everything blended well but the rap didn't seem to fit the song the rhythm of the rap was very repetitive I can't really put my finger on it I guess it kinda had a cheerleader type rhythm to it less like rapping and more like reciting a rhyme other than that I enjoyed it the first snare roll was tight and it all flowed well.......thats not in mono is it??

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Message 3/64                 Date: 06-Oct-01  @  11:44 AM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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pretty tight track. some nice processing in there. the strings at the end didn't fade out well for me.. i'm thinking either a more abrupt ending, or perhaps try increasing reverb or delay more dramatically to make it seem to withdraw and be mor emysterious. but the music is hitting for what you're doing imho.

afa the vocals, i think the style is okay - more a discourse (sermon??) than a rap, but that's jsut nomenclature. the delivery could use some improvement. some parts of it seem to work well with the style, other parts are weaker. i can't help but hear your accent and see a guy in a shirt and glasses at the office instead of a cosmic warrior   but that's subjective..

so here's my idea. try omitting some of the key phrases.. you know.. the strong ones at the beginning of 8 measures an stuff and overdub them seperately.. maybe with a more distorted process.. (speaking of which, how much are you od/distorting? w/ what??) ie. when you say 'right now!'

this'd also give you some times to catch your breath so it doesn't have that 'i'm catching my breath here' sound at times  

the diction is tight but i think it could use the breaks.. maybe a little more practice would help even more, so it's excellent, not good.. and a little more psychological zoning so it doesn't sound like you're at the office or something.. you know.. get a bit more sing songy or stylistic with the inflection. try making some of your vowels longer..

actually, if you did each line or four lines seperately, you could do stuff like let the last syllable hang over, pan off to the side..

yeah, i help christians now   i'm thinking that showing is a better tactic than disputing with them.

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Message 4/64                 Date: 06-Oct-01  @  01:42 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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i really liked this track musically, but the rap over the top just aint my bag man. it just wasnt tight enough...sounded like an afterthought. the first vocal sample sounded great (in the beginning) and the couple of lines after that were ok, but as soon as the rap part started i lost interest. without the rap i think youve got a solid piece of music there. however i dunno if god would approve, i would have thought hed be more into cliff richard?=)

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Message 5/64                 Date: 06-Oct-01  @  05:05 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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agreeed.. a well crafted track, but honestly (you asked for it) 'preachy' lyric's about Jesus ruined it for me cos it sounds a bit twee frankly. I mean, Moby is a Christian, but he doesnt bang on about Jesus all the time, I think that doing that is not so good, it's like advertising on a music CD, I dont want to listen to sponsorship slogans from Jesus when I'm listening to music really... Is it neccessary??

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!

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Message 6/64                 Date: 08-Oct-01  @  04:54 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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Thanks for the positive and negative feedback =)..
It seems the only real baad thing is the message. Which I fully understand and accept.

There was a point brought up by K 'I mean, Moby is a Christian, but he doesnt bang on about Jesus all the time, I think that doing that is not so good, it's like advertising on a music CD, I dont want to listen to sponsorship slogans from Jesus when I'm listening to music really... Is it neccessary??' Lemme break this down.

Moby is a good electronic artist who has been blessed, and been successfulwith his blessings.
But unfortunately not once has he made a reference to God in his songs....hmmm....is he not proud, or is he scared, or embarressed?
To spread the word of God is more powerful and the most message content than any subject out there! N sync,Janet Jackson, Moby, Roni Size,Linkin Park,Backstreet,Madonna, etc. messages are weak, and they accomplish nothing except to bob ur head.

Why not bob ur head and receive a message that can SAVE you....that is powerful....and one that offends.

But I also agree on the vocal structure....I must get more creative....but thats the growing process =)

Tim
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Message 7/64                 Date: 08-Oct-01  @  05:41 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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sorry, but errr ......wtf?

"Why not bob ur head and receive a message that can SAVE you....that is powerful....and one that offends."

I dont need saving, I dont need you people knocking on my door on a Sunday morning with your self-righteous beliefs and I dont need some book to tell me how to live my life thankyou.

Just keep it to yourself, just like I keep my beliefs to myself until godsquad rears its deluded head.

Yes, I said deluded - you said 'saved', that entitles me to 'deluded'.

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Message 8/64                 Date: 08-Oct-01  @  07:05 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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To steve

'I dont need saving, I dont need you people knocking on my door on a Sunday morning with your self-righteous beliefs and I dont need some book to tell me how to live my life thankyou.

Just keep it to yourself, just like I keep my beliefs to myself until godsquad rears its deluded head.

Yes, I said deluded - you said 'saved', that entitles me to 'deluded'.

Ok....'I dont need saving' so I assume you beleive in God then.

'I dont need you people knocking on my door on a Sunday morning with your self-righteous beliefs and I dont need some book to tell me how to live my life thankyou.'.........I hate that too...people coming to you're door who truly have the word of God(not Jehovas witness's or Mormons, or Muslims, or Buddhists) and want to share with you because they have been sent especially for you... and they risk ur hostility because they truly care for you...gosh how self rightous huh?

'Just keep it to yourself, just like I keep my beliefs to myself until godsquad rears its deluded head.'

What are you're beleifs? Whos is this Godsquad? I would like to ask them why they have affended you.
Also ask them why they are deluded...hmmm that word means to deceive,dupe,trick,cheat,take in,fool....thats not of God. I need to talk to the 'GodSquad' and set them right =)

As for keeping to myself....hmm im sorry im not a spineless mute that doesn't stand up for what is right, just, and yes rightous. Did you like the song...did you bop you're head...did you feel offended..im glad you did...something hit you making you put up you're defences....Take a closer look at urself and see why you posted the way u did...'
'I dont need saving,' are you sure?

Tim
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Message 9/64                 Date: 08-Oct-01  @  07:39 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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patently absurd.

if you check your history, madonna is single-handedly responsible for really really really and i mean really upping the tolerance level in u.s. society (i'm 31.. feel free to ask..) just because she said "look at me i'm so supposedly disgraceful and i'm really not so get used to it" and she did it again and again until it sunk in. god bless HER.

i reckon the artists you mention are all doing their part to give the youth of the moment something to identify with. ya can't put a donovan record on and expect 'em to get with it. sure five mature guys in a crowd of 12 year old girls looks daft but it takes serious dedication so that even kids from horrid horrid families have someone who will show them the ropes. and i'm sure roni size is progressive to someone  

so let ME break this down. let me ask you why don't you have some FAITH in your alleged 'creator?' why don't you think god can make the right choices when it comes to madonna being famous? that whole bob ur head thing is just an easy catchphrase for you to agree to.. that makes YOU the one bobbin your noggin.. if you understand anything about society and people, then you'd see that maybe sometimes giving people something to 'bob their heads' to is the best darn thing you can give them.. madonna.. "music makes the people come together.. makes the bourgeois and the rebels party.." so true.. the heart of the matter right there.. i daresay she's brought more people together peacefully than ANY of the alleged messiahs or prophets over the last 20 years.

i dunno if you came here from the j.e. forum cos i post there a lot.. so let me say.. i'm not into the whole christian thing at all, but i can't help but appreciate their tunes regardless. i'm not a christian.. my parents raised me to make my own observations and kept their mouths shut. as far as i can tell, most religions seem more like social entities than cosmic. from what i've seen, love, charity, and any 'holy' sort of thing is completely based on the particularities of the individual. when i meet someone who is christian, all it indicates is a factor of social conditioning/education.. generally a good reason to steer clear.. but not a condemnation. probably the most reliably charitable and considerate group i know of are woodpeckers.. now that's a word worth spreading.

(really folks.. woodpeckers, at least round thisaway are particularly watchful and communicative birdies. several times they've given me a 'heads up!' on crazy bosses an stuff.)

anyway. there are several forums out there for christian artists, though i daresay none of them have the techno/dance experience base you'll find here. there are a number of christians who post here regularly.. maybe you can ask them for links.

we've been through it loads of times so.. if you want to write music about jesus and have feedback on your technique, i'm thinking we can all get along, but please keep it out of your posts. i've got a lot of respect for christian virtues, and admiration for anyone who is sincere in their compassion and charity, but i've also suffered greatly at the hands of the 'faithful,' so the spread of credence i will fight to the fucking end so that it will never again be a tool for the greedy idiots of the world. nuff said?

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Message 10/64                 Date: 08-Oct-01  @  08:17 PM   -   RE: LIsten.....See if you like

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To xoxos,
'if you check your history, madonna is single-handedly responsible for really really really and i mean really upping the tolerance level in u.s. society (i'm 31.. feel free to ask..) just because she said "look at me i'm so supposedly disgraceful and i'm really not so get used to it" and she did it again and again until it sunk in. god bless HER.'
Interesting you bring that up.....lets see she Had burning crosses, a black Jesus(which actually lets not make a race thing come on') open sexuality, spite, and her own actions speak louder and more vulgar than that..So actually God DID bless her and she spit in his face.

'so let ME break this down. let me ask you why don't you have some FAITH in your alleged 'creator?' why don't you think god can make the right choices when it comes to madonna being famous? that whole bob ur head thing is just an easy catchphrase for you to agree to.. that makes YOU the one bobbin your noggin'

Yet again another strong point from you. The whole actions of me deciding to spread the word of God through music, suffering humility,hostility,and negative feedback increase my faith in God. I have faith that this is right and he will take care of me. I am doing his will. In the bible it says to use you're talents for God.
A prime example is Petra. They spread the Word a lot more vicious than I probably have or will. They are living fine and have accomplished many goals, they have touched people, and affected people. But the most important thing is that they are right in God's eyes. That is the only thing that matters.
Forgive me for using a catchphrase...Originally posted by xoxos"pretty tight track. some nice processing in there. " so i guess u didn't bob ur head...my bad!?!?!?


i dunno if you came here from the j.e. forum cos i post there a lot

Whats that? I'm interested!
most religions seem more like social entities than cosmic. from what i've seen, love, charity, and any 'holy' sort of thing is completely based on the particularities of the individual. when i meet someone who is christian, all it indicates is a factor of social conditioning/education.. generally a good reason to steer clear.. but not a condemnation. probably the most reliably charitable and considerate group i know of are woodpeckers.. now that's a word worth spreading.

Another Strong Point.
You are right that most religions are a social gathering. A more club per-say. But not that of God.When you beleive and give ur life in God you are finally alive.
there are no socialities because you can actually see, ur no longer blind. Why be social when there is work to do. This is SATANS world. His kingdom.How popular do you think Spreading the word of God is..not at all huh? Which strengthens my faith more. I am in God's Hand. You are safe when you are in Gods hand. Im glad you posted a lengthy post....I affected you in some way whether u will admit it or not....I hope u will listen to further songs of mine because they will hit harder each time and the message will be in the open and deep and offending each more....affecting many and hopefully helping many.

Tim
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