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Original Message 1/19                 Date: 21-May-01  @  02:52 PM   -   AW4416 or 02R

808 life

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so yhea this has likely poped up before, so I'll just make it quick, why is the 02r so much more expensif than the AW4416? (wich I thought was basicly a 02r w a HD recorder inside.. or a hdr w a 02r inside ... right now I'm leaning towards the aw4416 cos it will do everything right down to the cd burning... still a bit out of my price-range, but I'm always preparing for the future.. and this thing looks like a steel of the year on the s/h market ....



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Message 2/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  02:31 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

808life

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so no-one knows why a 02r w a HD-R would b less expesif than a 02r ?? .. there must b a catch ..



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Message 3/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  05:05 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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what makes you think they are the same?

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 4/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  09:53 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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theyre not

please read a little further. www.yamaha.com



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Message 5/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  05:03 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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actually I looked it up and acording to promotional adds by yammy they state it has a 02r built inside, and from the mixing specs yhea it does have the 02r mixing capabilities, and a sales person told me it had 44 ins, so I guess I'm being all silly when I think the AW is the same w a added 16trk HD-r, but last night I just relized that it's not a actual 44 input mixing desk only 24 (correct!? .. and that is the catch!!! the dif, the info that I was looking for, ..craking my own post.. why do I even bother posting.. but thanks anyway...



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Message 6/19                 Date: 30-May-01  @  06:02 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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According to Yammy it has 8 analog ins and a S/PDIF pair as stock. You'll have to add cards to bring it up to full capability..

From Yamaha.com:

If you'll be recording with the AW4416 alone, from mostly analog sources, you probably won't even need any additional interface cards. The AW4416 comes equipped with 8 analog microphone/line inputs. All inputs are balanced with TRS phone plugs, while channels 1 and 2 additionally feature XLR type connectors with switchable phantom power, +48v and insert I/O points for patching in external analog signal processing devices. Channel 8 also features a Hi-Z unbalanced input intended primarily for direct-recording guitar or bass. Digital input capability is provided via a coaxial stereo input. If that's not enough for your recording needs, then you can add up to 16 analog and/or digital inputs via two I/O card slots on the rear panel.
You can mix and match I/O cards as required, so you could, for example, add four high quality 24-bit analog inputs via a MY4-AD card in one slot, and 8 channels of ADAT optical digital input via a MY8-AT in the remaining slot. The Sampling Pads which can be used for realtime playback and recording of samples effectively provide another 8 inputs, the dual stereo effect returns are another 4, and the hard-disk recorder section has another 16 inputs. That adds up to 44 inputs with full simultaneous mix capability.

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So you can really only have a maximum of 24 inputs from external kit.. The input cards are the same as the 01V and will run you $250-300 US for the ADAT I/O or the 4-channel analog card. There's an 8-channel analog card too, but I don't know how much it'd cost you.

-Craig



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Message 7/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  12:10 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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influx youre suck a dick sometimes



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Message 8/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  02:04 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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oh really?



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Message 9/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  04:27 AM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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yeah but an o2r cant mix 44 channels... mixer makers always specify "it has 6 zillion inputs" etc, but the reality of how many you can actualy mix with is usualy a different story

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I had an idea for a script once. It's basically Jaws except when the guys in the boat are going after Jaws, they look around and there's an even bigger Jaws. The guys have to team up with Jaws to get Bigger Jaws.... I call it... Big Jaws!!!



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Message 10/19                 Date: 31-May-01  @  04:08 PM   -   RE: AW4416 or 02R

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so we wouldn't find an aw4416 in a professional environment then, would we??

i know of people completing large projects with just an 02r but somehow it seems yamaha are being a little deceptive.

do you think you could properly complete and master (to disc as they put) whole songs ready for release?



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