Original Message 1/27                 Date: 25-Oct-00  @  04:20 PM   -   Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

fink angel

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hi, this question must have been asked a gazillion times but i'm ready here and now.

i'd been eyeing a mackie 1604 vlz pro as my next logical upgrade. the sound quality is quite superb and far excels what i have now (studiomaster 16:2).

in the meantime however, i've noticed that alot of people here have digital mixers. i've always been told (mackie seminar) that analogue has a warmer sound.

now the newer generation is about i wondered what's new. hi-price digital mixers are now more affordable so should i indulge.

i'm not in a position to audition every mixer available (no stores nearby) but a recommendation would be good.

i have an akai s5000, supernova, vintage keys, R8, JX10 and effects units. i need inputs more than anything but cost is a factor.

whats the pros and cons?

thanx for unbiased advice

ciao

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Message 2/27                 Date: 25-Oct-00  @  06:39 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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Im sorry..but..uh..please read all the threads about the O1v here first!!!!

I just got one used with a case for a grand..thats only $300 more than a VLZ.

warmer? sure. its analog. but thats what tubes are for? after your digital mixer...

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Message 3/27                 Date: 25-Oct-00  @  08:01 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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i'll keep it simple - you haven't LIVED until you've mixed on an 01V (or 03D, 02R).

If this site ever implemented signatures, mine would run something like that.

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Message 4/27                 Date: 25-Oct-00  @  09:00 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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damn man!!!

johnny loves his. hope I do too when it gets here. figger a couple weeks learnin it but hey..should be worth it!

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Message 5/27                 Date: 25-Oct-00  @  09:10 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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Yes, you will too. It's mostly about convenience, for me, but the sound is also fantastic. Very clean, and deathly quiet.

Did anyone ever notice that the people who talk about analog being warmer or better than digital usually use stuff like Neve, SSL... Of course it's going to sound fantastic it's a hundred thousand dollar fucking console! There's really no comparison though between a mid-range Mackie desk and something like an 01V though.

-Craig

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Message 6/27                 Date: 26-Oct-00  @  10:46 AM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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are there any other digital desks to pick from or is the 01v the ONLY choice.

does anyone disagree that the 01v is the be all and end all??

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Message 7/27                 Date: 26-Oct-00  @  11:49 AM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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what about the promix 1? that's cheap now.

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Message 8/27                 Date: 26-Oct-00  @  12:40 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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just checkout the specs on the yamaha site.. I did, I really ,really wished I hadn't though.

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Message 9/27                 Date: 26-Oct-00  @  04:46 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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I've heard complaints of build quality on the Promix 01, and also that the compressors aren't as good, but I've never demo'd one. The Tascam TM-D1000 looks nice too and for a lot less money, but it doesn't have the processing power of the 01V, and it's only 8 channels unless you have TDIF outs on your gear. Otherwise, the TDIF adapter plus mixer to give you a 16 analog in desk is about $950 US, so your extra money goes well spent.

-Craig

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Message 10/27                 Date: 26-Oct-00  @  06:46 PM   -   RE: Upgrade to Digital Mixer or stay Analogue?

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the promix 01 only has 3 compressors, crunchy sound and extremely limited i/o. best avoided really.

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