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Original Message 1/23                 Date: 25-Jul-00  @  07:06 AM   -   help for a hobbyist

ddeshetler

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I have been reading through the different topics in this forum and have seen that mostly there are arguements and disagreements. If some of you could, without cursing at one another, please help me out, I would be much obliged. I have found a great interest in music, more specifically trance, drum and bass, remixes, etc. I am interested only in doing this as a hobby but, as a hobby am willing to spend a pretty decent sum (by my inexperienced standards) to have fun doing this. If you could, let me know some good equipment and/or software for doing this. Im not interested in doing clubs, or live gigs, just screwing around at my house.

thank you.

-David.



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Message 2/23                 Date: 25-Jul-00  @  08:20 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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Well, i think u should start with a workstation, like Trinity, or ( the better yet? ) Triton. U get all u need in these digisynths, i e basses, drumkits, pads, strings, pianos, and not so good analog imitations. And when you got the money, u just buy a gear which has the sound the workstation misses ( and the ones U want of course ) And then you need a mixer....

The story will never end



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Message 3/23                 Date: 25-Jul-00  @  10:08 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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My story is i just started playing with the Software rebirth and fell in love with filters. now rebirth is so advanced that it is absolutely amazing all the things it can do now. try Rebirth at www.propellerheads.com but if you wnat the real-deal-hands-on-feel ( which is what i eventually said) get a workstation, like that guy said. My first somewhat all-in-one unit was the MC-505, and it is great for that. If you are real computer oriented you might want to go the sampler route, the internet being an unlimited resource for samples and drum loops!



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Message 4/23                 Date: 25-Jul-00  @  03:15 PM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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Thank you both. I have just one more, semi-important question. What is the cost of these new? an estimate on them used? etc...I like the idea of hands-on better than simply computer software, although, I will probably try a little of both to see which fits me best.

-david



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Message 5/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  06:21 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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Sampler - a3000 new for 600 quid.
Mixing desk - behringer mx1602 - for under 200 quid

erm.. get fruity loops pro to start with because it's simple but also it's deep.. it will take you through all the things you'll find on professional samplers.. and more. and if you buy a sampler fruity loops is still usefull for creating loops.
it's a good place to start.



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Message 6/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  09:42 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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thanks alot...Ill look around and see if I can find those locally first, then if not, over the internet shopping I go.

-david



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Message 7/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  09:51 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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This question comes up quite a bit and there are a standard sort of questions that you need to answer.

1. Budget.

2. Experience.

3. Are you PC based or h/w based.

4. Existing equipment.

5. What kind of homework have your already done.

6. What type of exposure have you had to this type of equipment.

I think you've been looking in the wrong forum...



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Message 8/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  11:47 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

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I may be looking in the wrong list, but, here are the answers to your questions.

SUBJECT:
'help for a hobbyist'
mail this discussion to a freind..

Messages posted to thread:

Message From Date
ddeshetler@vcdss.org - 25-Jul-00
bante - 25-Jul-00
Solid Algoriddim - 25-Jul-00
ddeshetler@vcdss.org - 25-Jul-00
Jasper - 26-Jul-00
ddeshetler@vcdss.org - 26-Jul-00
Defector Z - 26-Jul-00







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help for a hobbyist
From: ddeshetler@vcdss.org
Date: 25-Jul-00

I have been reading through the different topics in this forum and have seen that mostly there are arguements and disagreements. If some of you could, without cursing at one another, please help me out, I would be much obliged. I have found a great interest in music, more specifically trance, drum and bass, remixes, etc. I am interested only in doing this as a hobby but, as a hobby am willing to spend a pretty decent sum (by my inexperienced standards) to have fun doing this. If you could, let me know some good equipment and/or software for doing this. Im not interested in doing clubs, or live gigs, just screwing around at my house.
thank you.

-David.





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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: bante
Date: 25-Jul-00

Well, i think u should start with a workstation, like Trinity, or ( the better yet? ) Triton. U get all u need in these digisynths, i e basses, drumkits, pads, strings, pianos, and not so good analog imitations. And when you got the money, u just buy a gear which has the sound the workstation misses ( and the ones U want of course ) And then you need a mixer....
The story will never end





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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: Solid Algoriddim
Date: 25-Jul-00

My story is i just started playing with the Software rebirth and fell in love with filters. now rebirth is so advanced that it is absolutely amazing all the things it can do now. try Rebirth at www.propellerheads.com but if you wnat the real-deal-hands-on-feel ( which is what i eventually said) get a workstation, like that guy said. My first somewhat all-in-one unit was the MC-505, and it is great for that. If you are real computer oriented you might want to go the sampler route, the internet being an unlimited resource for samples and drum loops!




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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: ddeshetler@vcdss.org
Date: 25-Jul-00

Thank you both. I have just one more, semi-important question. What is the cost of these new? an estimate on them used? etc...I like the idea of hands-on better than simply computer software, although, I will probably try a little of both to see which fits me best.
-david





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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: Jasper
Date: 26-Jul-00

Sampler - a3000 new for 600 quid.
Mixing desk - behringer mx1602 - for under 200 quid


erm.. get fruity loops pro to start with because it's simple but also it's deep.. it will take you through all the things you'll find on professional samplers.. and more. and if you buy a sampler fruity loops is still usefull for creating loops.

it's a good place to start.





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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: ddeshetler@vcdss.org
Date: 26-Jul-00

thanks alot...Ill look around and see if I can find those locally first, then if not, over the internet shopping I go.
-david





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RE: help for a hobbyist
From: Defector Z
Date: 26-Jul-00

This question comes up quite a bit and there are a standard sort of questions that you need to answer.

1. Budget.

somewhere 'twixt $1000 and 3000$

2. Experience.

not a lick.

3. Are you PC based or h/w based.

probably going to be PC based for a while because it is a cheaper way of learning a little about mixing and creating the music I want to, giving me a feel for the scene before I go delving in past my budget.

4. Existing equipment.

heh...counting my computer? 1.

5. What kind of homework have your already done.

this is part of it. I have looked wherever I could find articles about equipment, Ive emailed different people with experience and asked them to help me get on the write track. Ive subscribed to several ezines, magazines and newsletters about making music using equipment such as mixers and samplers, etc. and while I dont fully understand everything they are talking about yet, I will catch on before long.

6. What type of exposure have you had to this type of equipment.

none at the moment. Im going to try and weasel my way into a local recording studio or friends house for some practice and learning experience.




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Message 9/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  11:49 AM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

ddeshetler

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shit, what the hell was that? ignore the top part, looks like messages already posted...sorry. I didnt know copying and pasting the questions would shove a stick up the boards ass like that...hmph.

-david



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Message 10/23                 Date: 26-Jul-00  @  02:17 PM   -   RE: help for a hobbyist

Defector Z

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You have a ton of options ahead of you, a decend budget, and you shouldn't be afraid to make some mistakes. I spent a little over $3k (US) for my first bit of kit. This is what I got - and you can do a heck of alot better than I did.

Korg N364 - synth
Cubase VST 3.5 (at the time)
Rebirth (soft synth/drum machine)
Mackie 1202vlz (mixer)
Event 20/20p's (studio monitors)
Event Darla (soundcard)
and cords to make it work

I think I started with a good setup - more than many. The point is, for your budget, you have a lot of options.

What are the specs of your PC? Do you have a soundcard?



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