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As for K's issue with clip length equaling one bar and not a fragment of a bar, S4 (and 3.1.1, I think) will do it fine. You can just hit the "Groove Clip" for say, a MIDI clip that has 4 eighth notes, and "presto" a clean 1 bar loop. Also grid setting can be set for anything from measures to 64 notes in the piano roll view. In the Main track view, you can get a vertical grid, but it is limited to measure boundries.
ok, but can you default clips to do this or do you have to click and set for every one of them you create?
ok, grid... cool, but i meant on the arrange-page, it already had 64th grid in edit afair - it's usual for a grid to be allowable, and after all why the hell not!!... it's no major pain to add surely!?... and usualy it'll only show smaller divisions as you zoom in which again is normal... i think they have to realise one might be fine editing with cut and paste/move etc, small divisions of bars at places like bridges and what have you.
i stell feel cake is designed for mainly USA based users who employ it as a substitute for hardware multitrack, and in that respect itr's probably very good wired up to a 2 way 64 channel adat-to-mixer bridge - great full-on metering, and the editing favours live-playing recording I think
Project-5 - underated... i REALLY REALLY feel that TwelveTones need to think HARD about the markets and would be advised to integrate P5 and sonar into a 'dance' edition for people who do mostly loop and pattern based composition - strip out the flashy "It's liek a real studio mixer" stuff, or rather dont place it so important in layout, and just take the bull by the horns and go the whole hog... P5 is actualy excellent, but i dunno if the usergroup is that big with Reason already having such a huge reputation & userbase
if they took SONAR's editing grid, tarted up the drum-map a bit and integrated those two with the P5 ability to save and manage midi clips as motifs, fills, and percussion patterns etc... then tied that in with a sort of redesigned SONAR arrange-page which would have access to the 'clips bin' to drag & drop midi clips onto the tracks if required..... add an 'Audio-bin' for recorded audio and imported clips & groove clips, again with drag & drop to the arrange-page as for P5 with midiclips... change it so that added VSTi's & DXi's go on a new 'Plugin-Track', and you programme midi notes for it ON THAT SAME TRACK... DON'T split them apart... so all notes AND controller data etc is all on one track which can all be viewed when track height is expanded in lanes
that's about it really - killer product if it's layed out right. - SONAR DANCE EDITION
hmmm - i still dont think the company has realised the potential situation they're in with the other 2 majors being eaten by corporates.
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