Original Message 1/22                 Date: 03-Jun-03  @  04:19 PM   -   squarepusher Square-bass

dubmunkey

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Hi all,

anyone know how to achieve the bass sound squarepusher so loves to use...

It sounds to me like its a sqaure wave as its quite hollow, but with some res for a bit of squelch and filter env for a rounded sound...but no amount of tweaking has got me near the sound- the sound appears on his 'untitled' single and i would love to know how to achieve it- it may well be an FM sound but am not sure.....quality synth tone thou- any ideas?

let us know if you need an audio snippet

Greg

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Message 2/22                 Date: 03-Jun-03  @  08:07 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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I'd like to listen to an mp3 of that bass.

Regards
Stefan

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Message 3/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  07:53 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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I've got music is rotted one note, but that's the only one I have anymore!!!!

I'd like to hear an "audio snippet"

e

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Message 4/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  09:30 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

dubmunkey

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tried to upload a short sample but the server rejected it- it was an mpeg layer 3- at 96kbs- so dunno how else i can let you hera what i mean- doh!

greg

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Message 5/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  10:10 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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how big was it? there's file limit of 500kb.

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Message 6/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  12:35 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

dubmunkey

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Only 476 or something- def under 500mb- the error message said it was something to do with the type of file....

ill have another go and get more detail from the error...

G

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Message 7/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  12:38 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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HERE IS THE ERROR I GET...


Error Diagnostic Information
Error processing CFFILE tag

The MIME type of the uploaded file (audio/x-mpeg) was not accepted by the server. Please verify that you are uploading a file of the appropriate type.

The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFFILE), occupying document position (8:1) to (15:28) in the template file C:\HTTPD\HTDOCNEW\DANCETECH\AA_DT_NEW\FORUMS\ADD_FILE.TXT.


Date/Time: 06/04/03 12:37:44
Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)
Remote Address: 212.87.70.30
HTTP Referer: http://www.dancetech.com/aa_dt_new/forums/thread.cfm?threadid=33310&chatter_id=18&age=30
Query String: Title=&Age=30

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Message 8/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:02 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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squarep.mp3

eh?

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Message 9/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:08 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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oh, sounds like a pretty standard square wave bass (for the lowend). layered with that seems to be a saw (or even perhaps a square wave with some pulse width on it... not PW modulation, just a fixed duty cycle other than 50/50 for some grit. I like to use extreme settings for square waves) apply all the aforementioned resonant filtering and enveloping to the higher spectrum of the saw/pulse wave and leave the solid square bass untouched to anchor the sound. And of course a good overdrive will truly make it spit. I'm sure SP is using quality analog gear for this purpose... dirty dirty tubes!

psy

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Message 10/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:39 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

greg.spicer

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nice but its not the sound i was talkin' about- unfortunatley cant get the upload to work for love nor money......

Greg

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Message 11/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:44 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

psylichon

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aw dude... and it was exactly as you described it too! Damn...

Oh well, dude uses a lot of square sounds. I'm not gonna beat myself up over it ;)

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Message 12/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:49 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

greg.spicer

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oh don't get me wrong- ill certainly have a go at the bas sound you up'd cos its cooool- its just the tone im talkin about sounds even easier to achieve- i might try zipping the file...

G

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Message 13/22                 Date: 04-Jun-03  @  01:50 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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Squarepusher_-_Untitled_Single.zip

this should work

G

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Message 14/22                 Date: 05-Jun-03  @  05:31 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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hang on I'll add that mime type

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Message 15/22                 Date: 05-Jun-03  @  05:34 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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done... what are you encoding with out of interest?

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Message 16/22                 Date: 05-Jun-03  @  06:55 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

digital rust

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hmm, have you tried adding a touch of chorus to a
square wave?

i use basses like that all the time. you can use 2 square
waves, sync them, no PW (or very little), lp filter, cutoff at
half, a little res then add a little chorus to get it even
hollower. you can play with a filter env to get a little
punch for the attack of the notes as well.

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Message 17/22                 Date: 06-Jun-03  @  08:52 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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K it was just an mp3 at 128kbs- maybe there was a browser issue or a network issue from my end...

DG- good idea- i rarely use chorus on bass so will give that a try- to me the sound definitly sounds achievable with a va - so will have a go with my aj1- i think also there is a velocity sensitivity or its just modulating between notes-

thanks..

greg

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Message 18/22                 Date: 06-Jun-03  @  10:40 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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nope it was the file type, so I wondered what encoder was chucking out that mime type, I use wavelab and it chucks out a different mime type (but they are all 'mp3 files')

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Message 19/22                 Date: 06-Jun-03  @  10:58 AM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

dubmunkey

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i was at work so was using a bog standard encoder-

i used mp3 workshop to snip the file and it may have reencoded the file at the same time- the original came from Kazza Lite and is just a normal mp3 to my recollection so must have been something that mp3 workshop did to the file...

Cheers

Greg

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Message 20/22                 Date: 06-Jun-03  @  07:10 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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mp3 workshop? does that operate directly on mp3 files without decoding them? i'm looking for a utility like that for someone. so does it?

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Message 21/22                 Date: 08-Jun-03  @  05:34 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

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yeah but its pretty primitive, in that theres no real visual display just a couple of markers you can use to cut segments out with, i think there are conversion options too but only wanted it to cut a ready encoded mp3 so didnt use em...

Greg

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Message 22/22                 Date: 08-Jun-03  @  06:01 PM   -   RE: squarepusher Square-bass

milan

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cool. i'm looking for a tool which can alter the volume of mp3's without decoding. this looks like it might do the job. thanks.

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