Original Message 1/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  02:30 PM   -   techstep for x

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BEATS	1 0 0 0  |  2 0 0 0  |  3 0 0 0  |  4 0 0 0
kick	1 0 1 0  |  0 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0
snare	0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0  |  0 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0
cl hat	1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0

thats what i meant in the chat. long whooshy snare.

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Message 2/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  02:32 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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BEATS	1 0 0 0  |  2 0 0 0  |  3 0 0 0  |  4 0 0 0
kick	1 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  0 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0
snare	0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0
donka	1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0  |  1 0 1 0

NO

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Message 3/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  02:36 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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suit yourself sir...

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Message 4/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  02:37 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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I KNOW ALL

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Message 5/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  02:38 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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you amateur :P

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Message 6/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  04:55 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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Is that at 160 BPM then?

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Message 7/27                 Date: 09-Aug-02  @  05:04 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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thereabouts. but not slower. i wont alow it.

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Message 8/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  12:06 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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BEATS	1 0 0 0  |  2 0 0 0  |  3 0 0 0  |  4 0 0 0
kick	1 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0  |  0 0 1 0
snare	0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0  |  0 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0
cl hats	1 0 1 1  |  1 0 1 1  |  1 1 1 1  |  1 0 1 1
alt snr	0 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 1  |  0 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 1

alt snare is a bit quieter...

try it, you'll like it.

e

keep the beat at 180 or higher please... JUNGLE JUNGLE!

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Message 9/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  12:09 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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BEATS	1 0 0 0  |  2 0 0 0  |  3 0 0 0  |  4 0 0 0
kick	1 0 1 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  0 0 1 0  |  0 0 1 0
snare	0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 0  |  1 0 0 0
cl hats	1 0 1 1  |  1 0 1 1  |  1 1 1 1  |  1 0 1 1
alt snr	0 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 1  |  0 0 0 0  |  0 0 0 1

hmmm screwed that all up, not paying attention today!!!!

Try the above repair.

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Message 10/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  07:44 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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180? jeez

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Message 11/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  08:02 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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why not? ìts not unusual for dnb. you just need some very short drum sounds and very quick envelopes on your synth  

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Message 12/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  10:15 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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its gotten progressively faster, thats for sure

160 used to be FAST

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Message 13/27                 Date: 10-Aug-02  @  10:22 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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Back in the day (well about three years ago) I frequently played trax in my live set that were 160-195bpm. However, the stuff generally sounded a bit slower/groovier because of the way the drums and bass were programed. Very jazzy-esque dnb....

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Message 14/27                 Date: 11-Aug-02  @  12:12 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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that´s still around, trust me... i´ll show ya one day

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Message 15/27                 Date: 11-Aug-02  @  12:50 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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all I fuckin hear anymore is slayer sounding IM SO ANGRY stuff

NO funk. none. sad

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Message 16/27                 Date: 11-Aug-02  @  12:34 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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i thought techstep was all about derelict spacecraft?

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Message 17/27                 Date: 11-Aug-02  @  07:31 PM     Edit: 11-Aug-02  |  07:32 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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yeah, some techstep for x

it might be better than sex

he's down to powdered sugar

gosh ain't that a booger

and the poor guy can't poop

shoe-doo-doopie-doo-doop



chorus:

now x got some beats for some techstep (techstep)

hope it don't end up sounding like led zep

(repeat)

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Message 18/27                 Date: 11-Aug-02  @  07:53 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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hahahahahahahahahaha!

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Message 19/27                 Date: 12-Aug-02  @  06:47 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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Most Jungle breaks are up around 180, but MS is right, at that speed you can really get into the hip hop aspect of jungle. It's where tech step comes from. Breaking down those furious breaks and accentuating the kick snare rythm that sounds more like 90 BPM than 180...

Check out some of deisel boy's new sets, there all like 193BPM... FURIOUS!!!

e

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Message 20/27                 Date: 13-Aug-02  @  06:32 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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but the older stuff wasnt that fast

I still like future forces old shit...the first renegade releases. dope

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Message 21/27                 Date: 13-Aug-02  @  11:42 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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yeah, back in 96-97 160 was fast! I was just having this conversation with someone. About the death of ambient and chill-out trax. After jungle became popular the tempo of everything started rising house has gone from 120 to 130 in the last few years, trance is between 140 and 150 nowadays, it used to come in around 135 just back in 98. I've heard GOA tracks at 155! (Astral Projection etc...) That's 4 on the floor!

So now, no one has time for a track that's say 110 or 115 BPM. Just not enough energy. It's a shame, really... Intelligent ambient music is why I started making dance music!

Oh well, it'll probably come around again.

e

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Message 22/27                 Date: 14-Aug-02  @  08:03 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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i _always_ try for 110bpm. it's more interesting.

i don't know why, but it's much easier to get things grooving at higher tempos... less empty space i guess, so it's easier to tie stuff together.

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Message 23/27                 Date: 14-Aug-02  @  02:22 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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can house be house if it's only 100 beats per minutes? Maybe a stupid question, but are there any house tracks that are 100 bpm?

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Message 24/27                 Date: 14-Aug-02  @  06:18 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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proximus-

I'm not going to pretend to give too much of a damn about genre/sub-genre/sub-sub-genre... etc!

But it would seem that these things are often defined by tempo! Jungle id hip-hop only twice as fast... progreesive house/progressive trance are the SAME thing with a different tempo!!!

So I think that's a valid question, I also think (sadly) most people would try to "pigeon hole" a track at 100 bpm and say it's not house... all the same elements, all the same arrangements, but the tempo would be "wrong"!

Stupid, really...

e

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Message 25/27                 Date: 14-Aug-02  @  06:23 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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well..100 is just too slow to feel right on a floor, so that would probably be the ONLY qualifier

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Message 26/27                 Date: 15-Aug-02  @  08:32 AM   -   RE: techstep for x

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"After jungle became popular the tempo of everything started rising house has gone from 120 to 130 in the last few years"

What are you talking about errata? :-)

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Message 27/27                 Date: 15-Aug-02  @  04:52 PM   -   RE: techstep for x

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117 is so nice with a big, soft, rolled-off attack kick. perfect for both getting down and getting down.

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