Message 15/79
Date: 07-Apr-02 @ 12:03 PM -
RE: Define
thoughts? jazz players were ing MUSICIANS
not to detract from anyone here's skillz, but...all this SW, and sequencers, etc...have made it WAY too easy to make music
I for one know SHIT about "rules"...and I dont mean to say that I feel I should adhere to said rules, but...the lack of knowledge that I am PAINFULLY aware of in myself...is blatantly missing in so many people's efforts...
its just too ing easy now, and so few of us COULD truly "jam"...I dont know if I could
part of it would be self-oppression, one of the saddest characteristics of human nature. But the other part would just be lack of skill (and/or lack of experience...does experience make up for skill sometimes?)
I just..pongoid...I dont even know you but based on what you've said over the course of the years, you have a life that was flooded with musicality...playing jazz bass, being in truly spontaneous environments....
far too many of us, me included, were brought up in fairly rigid surroundings...and the concept of "letting go" is a foreign one. Of course I can only truly speak for myself, but...I do make contact with other humans occasionaly and the only time the ones I know seem to truly LET GO is after 5 pints of guinness (sp?)...
its like...SO FUCKING PENT UP!!!! so disheartening.
and yes, the answer is nothing more than COUNTEROFFENSE. just GO, as Jack would say, but HOW
how the ?
and part of that answer is learning. truly learning how music works...learning the rules in order to break them. I mean, sure..I can sit in front of a PC or even a HW seq and put stuff together. I have ears. I can tell if things sound good together, apparently well enough so that other people dont fall on the ground and convulse spastically when they hear my sounds, but the buck stops there. Put me, and you, in a room, and its gonna be a while before anything I do is "freeform" and or "spontaneous"
first, I believe I would be a bit intimidated, but second...I would FREEZE
only for a while, granted, and its AFTER that "for a while" where things would get interesting...
my point is...how many people here really know anything about truly meshing? about "jamming"? about "music"? Sure..we know we love it, and we know that deep down inside we LONG for being able to make those sounds that caused us to fall in love with this stuff in the first place (hence the 8inggazillion "how do I make this sound" threads) but...its...ahhh ..its just such a reach...or...maybe its jsut a few rungs up the ladder, but those rungs are so ing far apart!!!!!
sorry, me, just feelin a bit doubtful. Its either all SO much easier than it seems to me, or Im just missing the gist of it for some reason