Original Message 1/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  03:13 PM   -   Live PA = psy trance only?!

swanofnever

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hi,

i was looking a the "world electronic music festival" flyer... 3 days, 5 (or so) stages, with pretty much "the major genres" of electonic music represented:

house
jungle/dnb
trance
goa/psychedelic trance
breaks/beats/hip hop

there are maybe 20-25 acts per "genre"...

and so out of ~100 acts, 6 or so are live PAs -- and they're ALL in the "psy trance" category?!

any idea why? i can see why (say) house doesn't lend itself to live stuff so much -- a lot of it is about processed samples/heavy production/etc.

for instance, i can imagine someone programing a psy trance track from scratch, live -- just start punching in beats on a drum grid, tweaking a few synth parts till they sound proper, etc.... whereas i can't see "live breaks" (sample some vinyl on an MPC, scsi it to your laptop, open up recycle, etc...)

obviously i'm exagerating, but... anyway, i find it interesting/weird/etc., especially since i'd really like to do live stuff. that's not psy trance.

"which genre for live PAs?"...

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Message 2/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  03:26 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

Maarten

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IMO any genre should be possible to do live, why not? I do assume that per genre other set-ups might be required in terms of hardware / "real" instruments / vocals etcetcetc etc.

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Message 3/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  04:08 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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perhaps it's cos the trance scene (no coimmercial club trance) has a long tradition of live gigs, the other genre's dont.

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Message 4/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  06:07 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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How many people do you know that make LIVE electronic music that isn't trance? (I mean LIVE, as in the actually play out!) Jungle acts get some respect but live trance acts get more. teh audience expects live trance. I'm sure it goes to what K said about trance having the live tradition.

I've been playing out off and on for years. Used to do live jungle. People would bob their heads and nod and wander in and out of the room. I'd get mad props from the other artists and even some dancers after the set, but NOTHING like I get for the trance I've been playing out for the last year and a half. The whole dance floor picks up with live trance, kids reaching out over the gear to shake hands and shit, and people really opening up! That's what makes playing trance interesting.

Also, people listen to breakbeat, house, intelligence (i hate that phraze), D&B etc while they're makin' dinner, talkin' to friends and all that! They listen to trance at parties, and when they're driving!!! That HAS GOT to have something to do with it!

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Message 5/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  07:11 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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that's gotta be awsome.. to see people dance and open up to your music  

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Message 6/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  07:28 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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that's true, the underground trance crowd are much more aware of live sets and dats & all the rest of it, they dont 'expect' a vinyl slinging deejay that's the thing cos most of the set will be dat from the studio or live etc also at outdoor events etc. Trance is much more evolving and lends itself to live sets unlike prescision edited constantly changing other styles. Trance is really the last post of the original rave style I guess when people showed up with a drumbox and sampler etc.

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Message 7/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  07:57 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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hehehe...

I show up with a sampler a drum box etc...

No computers on stage, the up the stage lighting!!!  

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Message 8/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  08:00 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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GASP!! I used a bad word in my last post and it's gone. Is there a rule? I shouldn't be so rude, my apologies!

I'll find more constructive ways to opine in future ramblings.

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Message 9/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  08:54 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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only if you aint logged in.

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Message 10/20                 Date: 25-Jun-02  @  09:06 PM   -   RE: Live PA = psy trance only?!

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ahhhhh! I see.

Too much bother most the time. I'll keep it in mind.

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